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Hey Guys,

Been wondering about buying some rehydrate for my dog because after training every day he comes home lays down and seems very tired and worn out. He drinks a little water but not a ton and he breathes really hard for a good while when we get home. Thinking about getting some rehydrate for my dog to give to him once we are done. What do you guys think? Anyone on here give it to their dogs? Is it worth it?

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50/50 Pedialyte and water solution works fine to help get those electrolyte level back. It's also a good idea to give it to a dog that has been vomiting or has diarrhea to help fight dehydration.
 

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Just curious where dogs would loose electrolytes while working? Gatorade and the like works in humans because most electrolytes are lost through sweating, thus sweat tasting salty. Dogs do not sweat, where are they loosing electrolytes that need to be replaced? I could be way off base but dogs need water, in addition to maintaining normal functions, after getting hot to keep their mouths wet to facilitate cooling through panting.

This from the Purina Pro Club Site

Hydration Strategies in Sporting Dogs


Keeping dogs hydrated during sporting events is of critical importance. Research shows that a 44 lb dog that is participating in intense sporting events loses double the amount of water when compared to the same size dog that is not exercising (3000 cc's of water vs. 1500 cc's of water) even at similar environmental temperatures.

Intense exercise uses energy stored in the body. The process of using energy by the body produces waste products that must then be filtered out of the body and excreted. If there is not enough water available in the body, certain negative health conditions result. When even mild dehydration occurs, your canine athlete can have decreased cognition abilities, muscle ataxia, increased strain on the heart, and a decreased ability to regulate its body temperature. Total body water losses between 8-10% can result in death. The initial signs of dehydration can be subtle so it is important to know your dog. The amount of time for a dog to transition from intermediate to final stages of dehydration is quite short, so it is imperative to recognize the first signs of dehydration and take immediate action. If your dog exhibits any of the intermediate signs of dehydration, seek veterinary medical attention.

Signs of dehydration

Beginning signs
Visibly tired
Slowed pace/ Less animation
Act more “warm”—excessive panting etc
Changes in attitude- appears more apprehensive

Intermediate Signs
Skin turgidity will become less-if you pinch the skin on their back, it will be slow to return to normal shape
Slow gum capillary refill- if you press firmly on their gums and release, the time it takes for the gum to refill with color will be slow
Gums and tongue become darker in color
Rectal temperature remains > 105° F

Final signs
Weak in the hind end
Wobbly and unsteady on feet


Dehydration can occur in any dog working intensely, regardless of the environmental temperature, not just when it is hot outside, although increased temperatures do increase the incidence of dehydration. Hence, it is critical to keep hard working dogs hydrated regardless of weather conditions.

Unfortunately, electrolyte solutions typically used to hydrate humans do not work with dogs. Dogs do not sweat in useful amounts except from their footpads, instead they pant to cool themselves. Therefore, they do not lose electrolytes at the same rates as human athletes. Human electrolyte solutions can actually make dehydration worse in dogs because it causes an imbalance between the concentration of electrolytes inside and outside of the cells. This situation causes the water to be pulled out of the cells, which further exacerbates the dehydration condition. Most human electrolyte solutions are high in simple sugars, which can also exacerbate dehydration by pulling even more water into the gut. Feeding a quality diet should provide enough electrolytes so that the dog does not need to be supplemented, either pre- or post exercise. Therefore, dogs should be offered clean water in the field as often as possible.

Dogs should be taught early in their conditioning and training to drink from a waterspout so that water can be delivered quickly and efficiently in the field. There is not always a bowl handy! The most convenient way to carry water in the field is either in a large water bottle with a “sports lid” or spout or, in the new backpack water carriers like a “Camel Back” often used by cyclists and hikers.

In addition, during breaks or at lunch, offer the dog water baited with a few kibbles to give it flavor. Dogs maybe more inclined to drink waterthat has been flavored with kibble or other treats.

Remember, a dehydrated dog is not able to give a peak performance and will have a difficult time recovering from the exercise bout.
 

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I use Rehydrate on all of our dogs at Firewater during pheasant hunting. I promise you that it makes them go twice as long. I don’t know how it works; all I know is that it does work. We will run a dog 3 or 4 times down the field put them up in there box with a bowl of Rehydrate, and let them rest. When we get done running the next set of dogs they ones that have be given Rehydrate recover much faster, and have as much energy as they did when they started.

We used to use this rest technique before Rehydrate came out, and the dogs would work well for about 10 minutes then they would be shot. When you rest them and give them Rehydrate they have enough energy to hunt for 45 minutes straight. Having the dogs work well is a huge part of people having a great-guided pheasant hunt; if Rehydrate didn't work I wouldn't use it.

It works and I never go pheasant with out it.
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I have tried it and it works. It adds a taste to the water that makes my dog drink much more. I think it is pricey and there are other alternatives that are cost effective. My friend has a place in Sodak and his dog picks up a lot of pheasants. He used another product and saw quite a difference in stamina and recovery.
 

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(1) A PhD study of fluid loss in humans, horses and dogs exercising in hot, dry conditions, showed the small degree of sweat from a dog's paw pads did not contain electrolytes and was similar to distilled water in composition, and most fluid loss was due to evaporation via panting.
(2) Veterinarians caring for sled dogs in long distance races (heat stroke is a problem due to the dry climate and the heavy coats of the dogs) use such supplementation only in cases where the dog has electrolyte loss as a result of stress diarrhea. There is some concern that the unnecessary use of these supplements may cause undue burden on the kidneys as they strive to excrete the excess.
(3) It was noted that the majority of these types of supplements contain a great deal of sugar, are hypertonic and poorly absorbed. If necessary, Resorb or Pedialyte was suggested as an alternative, but fresh water would be the fluid of choice under most conditions.
 

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I'd have to agree with badbullgator and Vicky....Water should be the number one fluid of choice.

Vicky summurized it pretty well as did the following paragraph from badbullgator's post....i thnk its worth repeating.



badbullgator said:
Unfortunately, electrolyte solutions typically used to hydrate humans do not work with dogs. Dogs do not sweat in useful amounts except from their footpads, instead they pant to cool themselves. Therefore, they do not lose electrolytes at the same rates as human athletes. Human electrolyte solutions can actually make dehydration worse in dogs because it causes an imbalance between the concentration of electrolytes inside and outside of the cells. This situation causes the water to be pulled out of the cells, which further exacerbates the dehydration condition. Most human electrolyte solutions are high in simple sugars, which can also exacerbate dehydration by pulling even more water into the gut. Feeding a quality diet should provide enough electrolytes so that the dog does not need to be supplemented, either pre- or post exercise. Therefore, dogs should be offered clean water in the field as often as possible.
 

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I am doubting my dogs would drink it because of the "effervescence." They stay away from carbonated drinks.

I am thinking a fluid with three equal measures of chicken broth (sodium-free), pedialyte, and good ol' H2O is what I would try.
 

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If your are just trying to get your dog to drink after exercise, try baiting his water with a small amount of kibble.

In addition to that, you can add water to his normal ration of food when you feed him during the day/evening. This should keep pooch well hydrated, and he will get all the electrolytes he needs from his normal diet. No need to supplement.
 

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what about Gatorade? can't that be given to the dog, and have the same effect? and its cheaper than pedialyte
Read the following (again)

Unfortunately, electrolyte solutions typically used to hydrate humans (Gatorade)do not work with dogs. Dogs do not sweat in useful amounts except from their footpads, instead they pant to cool themselves. Therefore, they do not lose electrolytes at the same rates as human athletes. Human electrolyte solutions can actually make dehydration worse in dogs because it causes an imbalance between the concentration of electrolytes inside and outside of the cells. This situation causes the water to be pulled out of the cells, which further exacerbates the dehydration condition. Most human electrolyte solutions are high in simple sugars, which can also exacerbate dehydration by pulling even more water into the gut. Feeding a quality diet should provide enough electrolytes so that the dog does not need to be supplemented, either pre- or post exercise. Therefore, dogs should be offered clean water in the field as often as possible.
 

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I had pondered this a few weeks ago myself, and while I understand the argument against the use of gatorade- I'm a little skeptical of it.

First the practical viewpoint- most athletes do not drink gatorade at its full strength- they drink it about 1/2 concentration because it is better on our stomachs. This means the arguments about gatorade causing dehydration are weakened in this scenario, because you are actually increasing total free water in the body. As long as you are giving a diluted solution (hypotonic) to your dogs, they are getting more water than salt load really. Essentially you a trading the taste of kibble or rehydrate or chicken broth with lemon lime or fruit punch, etc.

There has been concern about increased salt load on kidneys due to the high salt content of it, and I again wonder about this. When you look at the actual breakdown of gatorade, it is almost all sugar, not salt. I have also done searches on medical databases and have found no published peer reviewed articles on decreased life span or kidney failure due to gatorade in dogs. (www.pubmed.com keyword searches including gatorade, kidney, dog, canine, sports drink, and all combinations)

Even with all this debate, the ultimate goal is to get fluid into your dog, and if something tasty motivates them to drink more fluid and doesn't hurt the dog, then go for it.

I'm also interested in getting some DVMs/ nephrologists opinions on it too.
 

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bculp said:
I'm also interested in getting some DVMs/ nephrologists opinions on it too.
The information I posted came from DVMs on a forum for vet professionals only where I am a member.

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I can't remember all the details off the top of my head. But, Nate Baxter has put together info on over-heating in dogs. I believe it use to be a sticky at the top of the page. Try a search of RTF. He did have some info on hydration, I believe.

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I know that Rehydrate was only developed by a DVM from the University of Minnesota. Which is 1 of the 4 top Vet Medicine Colleges in the nation (Cornell, Auburn, and Washington State being the other ones).

I can honestly say it works. I think people should really try something before they say it won't work. All I am saying is give it a chance when you are really running your dogs hard, and see for themselves. I have tried it and it didn't kill me so I have no problem giving it to my dog.
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I know that Rehydrate was only developed by a DVM from the University of Minnesota. Which is 1 of the 4 top Vet Medicine Colleges in the nation (Cornell, Auburn, and Washington State being the other ones).

I can honestly say it works. I think people should really try something before they say it won't work. All I am saying is give it a chance when you are really running your dogs hard, and see for themselves. I have tried it and it didn't kill me so I have no problem giving it to my dog.
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Rehydrate's got quite a few fans.

Steve, Whatever you do, don't use that last sentence to invent your new Firewater Canine Energy Bar made with real: baker's chocolate, onions & macadamia nuts! :wink: 8)

http://www.dog-food-corner.com/toxic-dog-food.htm

You still keep in touch with Adam?

Please do me a favor and tell your best-buddy and dad that I said "Hello". Dave Mealman is among the finest folks I've ever met in the retriever and working dog community. (And he's done a fine job raising a cool kid.)

Sincerely,

Chris
 
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