SMARTFETCH DVD QUESTION re: ecollar stimulation

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caglatz

Discussion Starter · Mar 16, 2007

I'm in the process of working on the HOLD command with my 8 mo lab, just prior to Force Fetch. I have read the Smartworks I - book and am in the process of reading through SmartFetch. In addition, I've just viewed for the first time the SmartFetch DVD - I think all the material so far is outstanding.
The question that I have is regards to the DVD, where Mr. Graham demonstrates Force to Mini Pile (3 bumpers) and ecollar stimulation. Am I correct to assume that when we condition the pup to ecollar stimulation we use the "continuous setting" until the dog picks up the bumper, but that when we transition to Force to Pile, we switch over to using the "momentary" stimulation with FETCH [no go] "nick" FETCH ....?
This is my first lab that I'm training so I'm very new to this. This will be my first time going through FF.

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Evan

· #2 · Mar 17, 2007

caglatz said:
The question that I have is regards to the DVD, where Mr. Graham demonstrates Force to Mini Pile (3 bumpers) and ecollar stimulation. Am I correct to assume that when we condition the pup to ecollar stimulation we use the "continuous setting" until the dog picks up the bumper, but that when we transition to Force to Pile, we switch over to using the "momentary" stimulation with FETCH [no go] "nick" FETCH ....?
This is my first lab that I'm training so I'm very new to this. This will be my first time going through FF.

Close. But I'm glad you asked.

Slip disc 2 in your player and select chapter 5: Force to Pile. The first segment is Mini-T, and the very first sequence of forcing on the Mini-pile (the 3-bumper pile), text appears on screen and remains for some time that says "All forcing on low & medium level 2 "nicks"..."

Is that what you were asking? Or are you getting no-goes?

Evan

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Evan

· #3 · Mar 17, 2007

Is that what you were asking? Or are you getting no-goes? The dog in that segment initially no-goes, and is forced on low level 2, which is visibly increased to medium 2 nick. That produces a successfuly fetch, and the session proceeds.

Evan

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Evan

· #5 · Mar 17, 2007

As the years have gone by I've continued to advance and streamline a few things about the system. That has always been so, both in my system and in others.

On the SmartFetch DVD is the most current and most complete information on this topic. When we fetch to the ground and begin to get the dog moving, I have demonstrated two techniques for CC-to-fetch, and I advocate doing this before moving on to Walking Fetch, and all the other steps along the way. I think you'll find it yields far better results, and makes the entire process flow more smoothly.

Evan

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Evan

· #8 · Mar 18, 2007

I predict you'll like it!

Evan

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