[George C. Tull]

I'm just getting into 'hold' with my 7-8 mo. old choc. female. Only worked her a couple of times. She seems to be doing good. To start out with she seems to want the paint roller & has no trouble holding it. After a few 'hold' then 'give it' sessions she seems to realize this is something I want her to do instead of her just wanting the roller. She gets just a little hesitant about taking it then, but does with little trouble and actually holds it pretty good for several seconds before I'll let her 'give it', praising her with strokes along the way. After a few of these hesitant to 'hold it' sessions I finish up with a few more using the '3-good dog' technique. She seems to realize it's coming to an end then, just by reading her body language & seeing the look in her eyes.
I'm very new to this training bit :roll: . She seems to be understanding though & seems I'm making progress along with her also.
This sound right??? :?
Last thing I want to do is something wrong or get ahead of myself.

 

[browndog49735]

maybe she has related the ending of hold to your upbeat tone of voice and extra praise.

try the same upbeat tone and praise during the whole session.

 

[JamieV]

George,

Sounds like your dog is doing better in the begining than my did. One thing I took from Shawn Dustin in Retriever Fever was wrapping my FF bumper with burlap and securing it on each end with duck tape. This seemed to help my dog hold on to it and kept her from rolling the bumper in her mouth. When I first started out I would have to pry her mouth open and say Fetch as I rolled the bumper into her mouth. I then had to hold her muzzle closed lightly and say hold. Remember you want hold to be a comfortable command, say it in low voice over and over...even when she is complying to your command, when she wants to try and spit it out you may have to say it alittle more firmly. If you ever think you have to go beyond this, give command "Give" pet her alot and start over. Once you can get her to hold the bumper with out your assistance, you are ready to move to next stage. During FF you will have alot of mini victories. I had a really good time FFing my dog. Once my dog learned that Hold means keep bumper in mouth, it was pretty much down hill. I am by no means a pro, but I feel I have a knowledge of FF. If you have any specific questions please ask. I was scared to death when I started lol

Jamie

Forgot to mention...Once she is getting better at hold, the holding muzzle can be transfered to just putting a finger under her lower jaw or palm of your hand under her lower jaw just to remind her that she is to hold on to it.

 

[George C. Tull]

Forgot to mention...Once she is getting better at hold, the holding muzzle can be transfered to just putting a finger under her lower jaw or palm of your hand under her lower jaw just to remind her that she is to hold on to it.

I'm not having to do that now. :? She seems to understand that I want her to hold it. Just seems way to early for her to be understanding that to me. :? From all I've read, It should be lots more complicated than this. Have I ran upon a natural?

maybe she has related the ending of hold to your upbeat tone of voice and extra praise.

I've only done that toward the end of the session. A few sessions after I realized that she figured out that it was something that I wanted her to do & not something that she wanted right off the bat.

 

[browndog49735]

Forgot to mention...Once she is getting better at hold, the holding muzzle can be transfered to just putting a finger under her lower jaw or palm of your hand under her lower jaw just to remind her that she is to hold on to it.

I'm not having to do that now. :? She seems to understand that I want her to hold it. Just seems way to early for her to be understanding that to me. :? From all I've read, It should be lots more complicated than this. Have I ran upon a natural?

maybe she has related the ending of hold to your upbeat tone of voice and extra praise.

I've only done that toward the end of the session. A few sessions after I realized that she figured out that it was something that I wanted her to do & not something that she wanted right off the bat.

lets not try to kid ourselves in any way the whole
FF procedure is something WE as trainers want. i think the trick is convincing the dogs that want to please us that they have done the best they can do.

 

[George C. Tull]

That's why I'm keeping it kinda short for now, starting out. When she realizes that it's something that I want I take it a couple of sessions longer then end it on a good note. I realize I still got seeeeeeveral more days of this though.