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What are your thoughts on one puppy born is a full stud fee? I know everyone has a right to have their contracts as they choose, I've just never heard of it.
 

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To my knowledge it is a fairly common thing. The price of the stud fee is often the price that is set on each pup. A $1500.00 stud fee, the pups are often valued at $1500.
 

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That's not how I read the question. I think the OP is saying that if only one puppy is born, the stud owner by this contract will charge full stud fee. Most that I have seen guarantee 3 or 4 pups, otherwise stud fee is pro-rated per puppy. I probably wouldn't go for this type of stud contract personally...
 

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Whatever number of live birth pups = stud fee should be agreed upon prior to the breeding. In my case we have considered 3 pups.
 

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Whoops, I see you are right...
 

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What are your thoughts on one puppy born is a full stud fee? I know everyone has a right to have their contracts as they choose, I've just never heard of it.
I don't think that is common, in fact I think it safe to say that would be uncommon. That being said, you have a choice when you select a stud and if that is one of the stud owner items listed in their contract and you agree to it...well then I guess you're going to pay full rate for the one pup.

My guess would be that the stud owner that is asking for that is likely charging a pretty low stud fee and figures that he has some set costs regardless of how many pups your bitch produces.

Also, most times when using frozen semen, you pay the full rate even if you don't get a single pup. Is what you are asking about in relation to a natural breeding or is it using frozen or fresh chilled semen?
 

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Most I've dealt with are 3-4 pups. And pro rate smaller litters. As Travis said AI litters are a different ball game with some( no guar, no refund ) But many also leave guar in place.
 

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We did a breeding to FC AFC Rippin Blue Thunder and only had one pup in that litter. Ms. Rice said no charge and would be happy to try again anytime. No contract no big deal just do what is right. Times have changed though, life was much simpler when a hand shake sealed a deal and a person's word was a bond.
 

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We did a breeding to FC AFC Rippin Blue Thunder and only had one pup in that litter. Ms. Rice said no charge and would be happy to try again anytime. No contract no big deal just do what is right. Times have changed though, life was much simpler when a hand shake sealed a deal and a person's word was a bond.
Ain't that the truth!
 

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When I was searching for a stud a few years ago it was the norm for the contracts to have a "number of puppy/puppies" clause in the ones I looked at.

Full stud fee for 4. Prorated below that.
 

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Mine says that there is no fee if less than 3 pups are born (survive). I do not collect the fee until the breeder sells the first pup. I know this is not the usual arrangement, but it works well for me.
 

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David -

Can you explain your philosophy regarding your decision to do it that way, please?

Thanks -

P.S> Hope you make it back up here to God's country again sometime.
 

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I think my opinion does not matter since I do not own the stud. If a person doesn't like the terms, there are plenty of options.
 

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We did a breeding to FC AFC Rippin Blue Thunder and only had one pup in that litter. Ms. Rice said no charge and would be happy to try again anytime. No contract no big deal just do what is right. Times have changed though, life was much simpler when a hand shake sealed a deal and a person's word was a bond.
Very, very true.
How about agreeing on a pup as a stud fee and then reneging on that because you don't like the person the stud owner is selling the dog too? Nothing wrong with the person getting the pup from the stud owner, you just don't know or like them?
 

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Most people base it on the number of puppies born. 100 dollar per pup. Normally 6 pups are a 600 dollar fee. I think the going rates is 150 dollars for a FC or MH stud. One pup I would not charge. Normally it is 3 pups.
 

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Most people base it on the number of puppies born. 100 dollar per pup. Normally 6 pups are a 600 dollar fee. I think the going rates is 150 dollars for a FC or MH stud. One pup I would not charge. Normally it is 3 pups.
I don't think this is remotely accurate, even for goldens, which aren't my breed. I've NEVER heard a stud fee based solely on number of puppies in a litter, in retrievers anyway.

Every stud I've dealt with, usually 3-4 pups constitute a full litter and full stud price, anything less is pro-rated per pup and is stated up front. Almost every stud owner I've dealt with has been very gracious and helpful. I've had stud owners reduce the stud fee on small litters even when they didn't have to, or recently, had one bitch only have one stillborn, for which I expected to pay at least the proration, stud owner declined.
 
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