RetrieverTraining.Net - the RTF banner
1 - 19 of 19 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hello all! Thanks to all who spend time here helping others!

Pertinent Background
I have a two year old yellow Labrador. He comes from a great line and is probably smarter than I am. :)

He currently: sits, lays down, stays (working on removing the word "stay" and we are almost there!), retrieves short distances, 90% on staying still when a bumper is tossed (waits for me to say "back" or "go", or his name), and various other family-type commands (like leave it, drop it, get in the car, etc etc)


Goal

I would like to hunt fowl with him, and would like to participate in AKC Hunt Tests.


What I THINK I Know

From what I can gather, I really need to sharpen his obedience before I do anything else. He comes when called 90% of the time and doesn't heel at all (and as I mentioned before, working on "sit means sit"). Once I get these tightened up, I would like to move on to more hunting specific items.

I have been looking at both Fowl Dawgs and Smartworks as a program.

The Question(s)
1) Do you think I will have a harder time because his is already two?
2) Am I right that I should focus on heel, sit means sit, and recall before I move on to anything else?
3) With a goal of hunting and hunt tests (and knowing my background), which program would you recommend and why?
4) Will I be able to do this on my own, or should I be sending him off to a pro?
5) How do "clubs" work? Can I just join one and get help from others? And would you recommend joining one?


Sorry for the newbie questions. I tried to make them as clear and to the point as I could. I just feel a little overwhelmed with what direction to go from here.

Thanks!
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,604 Posts
Can't comment on FD since I have never used it but have used SW and like it, I believe a plus would be the fact that Evan posts on RTF. You have the right idea with OB and if you go with a pro afterwards it will save some time and $$.
Good luck on your journey.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,626 Posts
Welcome to the RTF FattChris!
Great lookin' Dawg ya got.
Yes you can do this on your own.
Yes you can do this with a 2 year old.
Yes OB (sit, here, heel) is good but a great many go quite far without nailing that down, for real!

How do clubs work?
Well ya got a group of goofy so-and-so's just like you. They like dogs more than relatives. They will stand in a cold drizzly and toss a very very dead duck, for your dog to retrieve. Asking only that you in turn do the same for them.
Now be warned all clubs, every single one, 75% of all the work is done by 10% of the members. And those members are always looking for fresh meat (thats you). Have fun, be as helpfull as you are able, don't try to do everything (they will make scamper jokes about you) and take everything you hear with a grain of salt.
Best part about a club is the membership list. You can pick up the phone on a thursday eve and plan a weekend of training and get live birds and training grounds and people to toss.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Thanks, guys! Is there a forum on here somewhere that acts as a groups directory? I would like to find one near me, but am having trouble locating anything within a reasonable drive.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,626 Posts
tell us were your at, we ARE the group directory.:D
we are the group of guys and gals standing at the tailgate of the pick up truck after a test.
ask us anything.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Sweet!

I am located in Heber City, Utah. Closest notable town is Park City, Utah (ski resort town), then Salt Lake City. SLC is about an hour, though.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Thanks! I had been googling, and even ran across these guys. Missed the part where they said Heber Valley somehow (yeah, Heber City is in Heber Valley).

I am ashamed :( I am a full time web programmer - I should have caught this the first time ;)

Thanks again!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
237 Posts
I personally kinda like Chris Akins program Duck Dog Basics. Simple basic pretty decent start to a dog. Everybody is gonna give you there theory on programs. All our good in their own way but find what makes you feel most comfortable and confident
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #11 ·
So, if I go with Smartworks, which DVD should I start with? The "flow chart" on Evan's site is not very clear. (Or I am not very bright :) )
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
530 Posts
So, if I go with Smartworks, which DVD should I start with? The "flow chart" on Evan's site is not very clear. (Or I am not very bright :) )
I would recomend you to go ahead and get Evan's Basic package. comes with dvds and a written book. also when you get started read several chapters ahead it will clear up some questions you will have. when you finish this Basic program you will have a hunt dog better than most average guys in the field AND your dog will have the tools to go on into advanced training. good luck with your dog!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
thanks! Once I get it, which DVD should I start with - or do they run in conjunction? (Or is there material that will tell me all of this once I get it?)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
530 Posts
thanks! Once I get it, which DVD should I start with - or do they run in conjunction? (Or is there material that will tell me all of this once I get it?)
you will want to start with Obediance DVD. but thye package is laid out step by step.....like i said read ahead several chapters and kinda get the idea of where you are going and what you are trying to accomplish.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #15 ·
thanks! I will buy them today and post my progress!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,637 Posts
Sweet!

I am located in Heber City, Utah. Closest notable town is Park City, Utah (ski resort town), then Salt Lake City. SLC is about an hour, though.
You aren't far from a couple of great clubs. Lee Kay is where most of the training days are held. An hour is not too far to go to train with good, friendly folks. Steve Shaver also posts to RTF and I'm sure would be a good resource. Again, the Utah folks are wonderful and are comprised of some folks with very talented dogs and the knowledge to see which direction you should take with your dog. If you get bitten by the bug-instead of thinking an hour is too far to go, you'll be on the road to ID, MT, etc. On that note-the Billings folks are special and a weekend training with them is worth the drive.

Good luck!!

M
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter · #17 ·
You aren't far from a couple of great clubs. Lee Kay is where most of the training days are held. An hour is not too far to go to train with good, friendly folks. Steve Shaver also posts to RTF and I'm sure would be a good resource. Again, the Utah folks are wonderful and are comprised of some folks with very talented dogs and the knowledge to see which direction you should take with your dog. If you get bitten by the bug-instead of thinking an hour is too far to go, you'll be on the road to ID, MT, etc. On that note-the Billings folks are special and a weekend training with them is worth the drive.

Good luck!!

M
Thanks! And good points ;)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
192 Posts
JMHO, but if this dog is age 2 and you still don't have his OB solid, 'maybe' you should have some basics done by a pro if the budget allows for it. It seems like it would give you and dog a jump start if you really do want to pursue this. And I don't mean to be negative - just realistic ;-)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,626 Posts
I don't read it as the Dawg in question can't do anything. Just that the owner wants to know what to do. Just cause a dog is 2 don't mean it has been in constant training all that time. Once upon a time some folk never even started actual training until a dog was 2, so I hear. And dogs don't know how old they are, only what cubbord the biskits are in.:cool:
 
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
Top