[Guest]

There are two very nice and similar litters that I have seen.

The first one is Espirits Power Play (21.5 FC points and 38 AFC points) x Lean Cusine (55.5 FC points and 60.5 AFC points) assuming 1-1500 more than second litter

The second litter the sire's are littermates and the dams are full siblings.

Nick of Time Lone ranger(49 FC points and 62.5 AFC points) x Topbrass Roxx the boat(FC 11.5 points and 17 AFC points) (not sure if she has run in many trials in the last two years or is run in trials any longer)

Which litter would you choose and why? I

I am new to this forum and if this is not an appropriate poll, or is not fair to the breeders, let me know and I wll remove it.

 

[meleagris]

For me it's no question. It would be the Kweezy litter. She is a remarkable animal....she's a double header winner and multiple time national finalist. And on top of that, she can make the hair on your neck stand up stomping mark after mark. She's a BIG TIME dog.

If I had the money....that's what I would want....a Kweezy pup....I don't give a D#$% who the stud is.

John
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[Guest]

I agree, me too. You do not see many litters out there where the dam is so strong, at least from what I have seen in my limited looking. I thought it was interesting though that the litters were similar.

 

[El General]

These are the types of decisions I wish I had more often. Blonde supermodel v. brunette supermodel. If I absolutely positively had to pick one it would probably be the Kweezy litter. Is there a more accomplished bitch in field trials today? I can't think of one.

Will

 

[JusticeDog]

Pow x Queezy, but I sure as heck wouldn't be disappointed with Ranger X Roxxy.

 

[RetrieverNut]

which would you choose

Ranger X Roxy since I've seen talent from the first litter!

 

[Angie B]

Re: which would you choose

Ranger X Roxy since I've seen talent from the first litter!

That would answer the question for me. I'm partial to repeats that have proven sibilings.

That is if all things are equal. They're not. Kweezy is the superior competitor in my opinion.

It's an exciting decision to have to make. It would be easy to over think analyze it.

By the way I didn't vote. I would have to research the heck out of it, and split a dozen hairs sideways before I could reach a choice... :wink:

Angie

 

[thunderdan]

It is a very interesting delimea. There are several pups from the first litter of Roxx that are in the right hands with professional trainers, they are still young though, maybe 9 or 10 months old.

I am also sure that the pups out of Kwezzy are going to be excellent. Many say to look at the bitch more than the sire, there is an advantage to Kweezy there.

 

[Lyle Harne]

Blonde supermodel v. brunette supermode

Brunette

 

[Matt McKenzie]

What an interesting question that leads to even more questions. Does the performance record of the sire and dam actually equate to better odds that the pups will perform well or does it simply raise the expectations of the pups' owners?
Obviously these litters are very similar genetically and I would suspect that the differences between the litters would be no more than the differences between individuals within each litter. But of course there is no way to say for sure because of all of the other variables involved.
I'll bet that many who would pay dearly for a pup from one of these litters might have passed on the litter that produced the sires. After all, how many would buy a pup from a litter where the sire is both untitled and unproven?
It seems counterintuitive that there would be so many FC dogs out of that litter (Pow, Ranger, Deuce, etc) when there are FC to FC breedings that don't do nearly as well. But for whatever reason, we tend to place a lot of weight on the titles of the parents (especially the dam) when history shows us that there isn't a direct correlation between performance and prepotence. For what it's worth.

 

[EdA]

while soundly casting my vote for the Kweez (she is the most incredible marker I've ever had the privilege of running & I'm getting one), the Ranger X Roxie pups could be just as good

Roxie and Kweezy are siblings after all, and their mother is one of the all-time top producing bitches

I don't think one could make a compelling argument either way, history will tell us which was best 8)

 

[frontier]

If I can "dream big" it would have to be a pup out of Queezy. I had the wonderful experience of judging her at a trial as a Derby Dog and Wow..what a marking dog. I knew that animal had a competitive career ahead of her..

 

[Charles C.]

What an interesting question that leads to even more questions. Does the performance record of the sire and dam actually equate to better odds that the pups will perform well or does it simply raise the expectations of the pups' owners?
Obviously these litters are very similar genetically and I would suspect that the differences between the litters would be no more than the differences between individuals within each litter. But of course there is no way to say for sure because of all of the other variables involved.
I'll bet that many who would pay dearly for a pup from one of these litters might have passed on the litter that produced the sires. After all, how many would buy a pup from a litter where the sire is both untitled and unproven?
It seems counterintuitive that there would be so many FC dogs out of that litter (Pow, Ranger, Deuce, etc) when there are FC to FC breedings that don't do nearly as well. But for whatever reason, we tend to place a lot of weight on the titles of the parents (especially the dam) when history shows us that there isn't a direct correlation between performance and prepotence. For what it's worth.

What an incredibly insightful and well thought out post. Can we pass out a post of the day award?