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what is more difficult, AKC SH title vs. Derby points?

Which is more difficult, AKC SH title vs. Derby points?

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SH level seems to be the level when all the elements are introduced into testing: multiple marks, honoring, blinds (ergo handling), and gimmicks like walk-up, bulldog, etc.

vs.

Derby seems to have significantly more difficult marks than SH, but the dog does not need to honor or run blinds.

i'd like to try both. which is more difficult :?:
plus for derby, you can heel dog to the line on a lead, right?

perhaps a fairer comparison is SH vs Q?
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I have a suggestion for those that voted that a SH is more difficult than earning Derby points. Go watch a Derby at a Licensed Trial. Then if you can get access to the grounds, duplicate the tests and run them. That will give you a good understanding of what's required to do Derby work. Especially that 4th series. In the big picture of retrievers, if a dog can JAM a Derby they are a GOOD dog. HPW
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