[Lil Dikens Kennels]

Looking for white confidance cones. need to buy only a few.found some but they want u to buy 100 or more at a time

 

[blind ambition]

Have you considered white plastic Food Service pails? Get them from the back alley behind most restaurants, bakeries, etc.. Very useful too for carrying birds, bumpers or WHY and best of all they are free.

 

[Jake Greenwell]

You can buy orange cones from Home Depot or Lowe’s and either paint them white or wrap them with white athletic tape.

 

[Lil Dikens Kennels]

use them now. I like the fact that the cones do no get stuck together as much as buckets nor do they crack in the cold

 

[Jerry]

Go to Shipley's DoNuts, get a truck load of white buckets and don't worry about it if several crack.

They come with lids and they're free too!!!

Jerry

 

[Josh Conrad]

I have just re painted 7 of my cones. Takes me about 10 minutes and a few cans of white paint to do it. Have to re paint every so often.

Bought the cones at Home Depot, for a few bucks each.

 

[2tall]

Can someone explain the use of cones to me?
Non conehead regards

 

[Josh Conrad]

Can someone explain the use of cones to me?
Non conehead regards

I use them for confidence when teaching a new drill or a pattern blind.

Baseball, put the cones out at each pile/ or pile teaching that day.

T each pile and so on.

James Spencer's "Retriever Training Drills for Blind Retrieves" goes through the use of cones. In Fact, he uses cones for teaching a lot of his drills.

 

[blind ambition]

Did I mention you can sit on buckets? Well, guess you could sit on cones too....but, ouch!

 

[Suzanne Burr]

I used orange cones, stuck an old kids T-shirt over them and they worked fine--then you can just whip off the shirt and see how the doggies do because they can still see the cone. If they have trouble, stick the shirt back on it. You can also use white dishtowels and stuff part of it in the opening at the top of the cone if it's windy. Saves painting!
Suzanne B

 

[Kris Hunt]

Just be careful they don't get used to stop traffic at your local field trial (or hunt test) anywhere near where you might be running a test. I nearly lost my dog on the end of a really really long and hard Open water blind. We got past the most dangerous parts (poison bird on line, 2 points, shoreline, big water, you name it) and near the end I started having trouble putting the dog on the bird, then I looked to see what he might be thinking and I SAW THEM!!! MY TRAINING CONES!!! OH CRAP!!! WAY OFF LINE!!! I was able to save the day and still get the bird, but talk about a fright. Cost me a few whistles, could've cost me the trial. Funny Now though.

Kris
Blacktail Labradors

 

[Judy Chute]

Just be careful they don't get used to stop traffic at your local field trial (or hunt test) anywhere near where you might be running a test. I nearly lost my dog on the end of a really really long and hard Open water blind. We got past the most dangerous parts (poison bird on line, 2 points, shoreline, big water, you name it) and near the end I started having trouble putting the dog on the bird, then I looked to see what he might be thinking and I SAW THEM!!! MY TRAINING CONES!!! OH CRAP!!! WAY OFF LINE!!! I was able to save the day and still get the bird, but talk about a fright. Cost me a few whistles, could've cost me the trial. Funny Now though.

Kris
Blacktail Labradors

Holy Cow...that's awful Is there anything that does not happen with dog training and trialing????

I did the free white bucket thing (with lids !)...and have used orange cones and put white trash bags over them...

Then, due to my Subaru running out of space due to training stuff and a 2nd Golden ..

I purchased a set(s) of the black and white "Success Flags"..Lion Country is one place, among others, #FMF..3 pack ..shows $7.75 ..pg 31 in catalog. Roll up together, do not take up space ..and easy to carry out ..and they show up in the snow!! One could make them..

Did use buckets, again, this winter. No snow and ground froze hard.

 

[Sue Kiefer]

I'm still lost on cones and their use as confidence builders????? :?
Going back to the same spot over and over again how does that "Build Confidence" when then asking your Bigdog to do blinds where there's no crutch????? :?
Won't it make more sense and also leave room in your vehicle for other things if you just did more cold blinds. :wink:

 

[Josh Conrad]

I'm still lost on cones and their use as confidence builders????? :?
Going back to the same spot over and over again how does that "Build Confidence" when then asking your Bigdog to do blinds where there's no crutch????? :?
Won't it make more sense and also leave room in your vehicle for other things if you just did more cold blinds. :wink:

Man, I don't even know where to start. I'll have to think on this one for awhile. Meanwhile I'm going to go set out some cones for my bigdogs. :lol:

 

[Kris Hunt]

Two different discussions are happening. One is using cones for T work, which I don't know anyone who does not 'mark' their piles somehow, when teaching a dog to handle. Whether is is a cone, bucket, stick, or 20 bumpers on bare ground, it is marked. Dogs learn to handle through repitition, it is mental enough without having to fight where the pile is. After the dog is prolific at the T (double T) you can take the cones away and see what you get. You should see a dog taking your casts with confidence and speed. If you don't, you need more time on the drill.

Using cones for lining drills teaches a dog to 'look out' and 'lock in'. I start with visible piles (or cones, whatever) for several sessions, then I'll start taking away some of those markers (every other pile for instance) and soon none of them will be marked. The dog will be running with confidence, if not, something went wrong.

Running your pattern field builds confidence. the cones are the start of it. You can have 6 month old pups running several blinds in a pattern field. You progress from that to 'cold blinds', and you are right, running lots and lots of easy cold blinds builds confidence (so do birds on the end of your blinds). I start my cold blinds in as simple a field as possible and I'll have several bumpers out there so I don't get in a casting fight, I just want the dog to run into the field, stop when I sit him/her and make some change of direction when I cast. None of those are marked, but all the work I've done up to this point on my T, lining drills, pattern field and sight blinds has taught the dog that when s/he is sent into the field, that s/he is going to come home with a bird.

Hopefully they helps in the 'logic' of using cones/buckets/etc..

Kris
Blacktail Labradors

 

[Judy Chute]

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[Judy Chute]

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[John Lash]

Try "lining poles" a 3 to 4 foot long piece of white 3/4" pipe with a nail in the end to stick in the ground. Use it as a blind stake. It helps to get the dog to "look out", line up, and run with confidence. Do some drills to teach them what it's for, then go to your field, plant a blind with the white pole as a marker. Run that blind, then plant a blind, and a pole where you are standing, go out to the other pole and run back to that one, etc. etc.

Lion Country sells them or they're easy to make, easy to carry, and don't take up much room.

You can set them to be very visible, or barely visible, depending on the terrain, cover, and the angle it's stuck in the ground as they progress.

John

 

[DSO]

I'm not sure but either dogs afield or lion country supply had single cones (orange) and white cloth or nylon sleeves to cover them. This way you can use the orange cones if there is snow on the ground or pull the white sleeve off in warmer weather / leave the cone for the pup to mark, and use it as a intermediate step before pulling the cone away completely.

Danny

 

[Evan]

Can someone explain the use of cones to me?
Non conehead regards

Pardon my being blunt, but to me they represent a crutch for an under-forced retriever. A well force dog that has been sequentially advanced through force to pile has little or no need for this type of prop.

To each his/her own regards.

Evan