BadBull
Please read above..
Luckly there is no need for any machines. The seats as stated are threaded. Double check if righ or left hand.
Another Hint that might be of help to the original poster, is to check into the new "SEATLESS DUCKS"
They are now available in a "plethera" of styles and species!! Made of Rubber, these retrieveing aids just might help your problem . They come "seatless"!! They do however have a rope strategically attached at the seat area. It also has a hardwood Ball attached at the end. The head of the rubber ducky is also made of hardwood. If your dog has trouble with the seating training, and gets frustrated, he might have a tendancy to shake the duck. A few times with this will quickly correct him by knocking him upside the head with the said hardwood. Ducky is amasingly designed to deliver equal "knocks" to both sides at once , so you still stay consistent in your training. (also keeps him "same handed")
This may help the dog become more relaxed, and receptive to the whole proceedure!!
One other comment I would like to make is that I have recieved comments Privatly about the FRENCH post.
In now way did I mean this in a detrimental way!!
this came froma person who had a problem about a recent Canada thread!!! Just wanted to clarify!!
Jerry. if you feel this post has reached its full potential, fell free to do what you must!!
BUT, Keep in mind that the GOOSER is here for all of ya!!! ANYTIME!!
Gooser