[Randy Bohn]

Available on Amazon book store....now....

 

[Tobias]

COMING SOON....

Really awesome! Hopefully when it 'hits the market' you will share the storefront info as well!

 

[Steve Shaver]

Ahh free advertising at it's best. I disagree that it is not the dogs fault. Sometimes but not always. Sometimes a combination of environmental and the dog. Dogs, humans, and all animals are born with good and bad traits. It is our job to bring out the best and suppress the worst but we cannot always over come what they are born with.

 

[James Wick]

Can I get an autographed copy????

 

[Jeri]

How can I get my hands on this? I am in desperate need of this right now...

If you need a Proofreader or Guinea Pig - I'm your gal!

 

[Randy Bohn]

Really awesome! Hopefully when it 'hits the market' you will share the storefront info as well!

yes i will

 

[Randy Bohn]

Really awesome! Hopefully when it 'hits the market' you will share the storefront info as well!

How can I get my hands on this? I am in desperate need of this right now...

If you need a Proofreader or Guinea Pig - I'm your gal!

i will let everyone know when its ready....soon

 

[Randy Bohn]

Can I get an autographed copy????

ha ha...hope you and your crazy dog are doing well

 

[Randy Bohn]

Ahh free advertising at it's best. I disagree that it is not the dogs fault. Sometimes but not always. Sometimes a combination of environmental and the dog. Dogs, humans, and all animals are born with good and bad traits. It is our job to bring out the best and suppress the worst but we cannot always over come what they are born with.

i see this site hasnt changed much in the past years...

 

[Tobias]

I guess it really depends on how a person defines 'fault'

When it comes to training and any behavioral issues, I'd agree with Randy, it is never the dog's fault. It only reacts based on what works or has worked for it in the past.

 

[Steve Shaver]

i see this site hasnt changed much in the past years...

Why would this site be any different than any other part of society? People have the right to a difference of opinion. I have seen many ads removed from the general forum and placed in the appropriate classified section, and I do see this as advertising. There is no discussion of the subject just a teaser of a product that I assume you intend to sell. I think it is a great topic for discussion. Using discussion to promote your product would be a better way to introduce it rather than the teaser your posted.

I do disagree with the theory of your title. If dogs didnt have faults this thread would not exist. I do agree that a lot of faults can be worsened by the improper handling of the subject, with the proper handling it can be improved as well. Actually I am helping you with your product by simply drawing more attention to it. It is not my attention to degrade your product. It could be very useful and help a lot of people but you have been absent from this forum for a loooong time and now you pop up with nothing to ad but a teaser for a product.

 

[duckheads]

I guess it really depends on how a person defines 'fault'

When it comes to training and any behavioral issues, I'd agree with Randy, it is never the dog's fault. It only reacts based on what works or has worked for it in the past.

I respectfully disagree. I am on my 3rd lab and the first two hardly whined at all. My current girl was whining from the day I brought her home and I knew it was going to be a problem. I tried to control it but admittedly I didn’t know exactly how to do it. I read posts and different articles but it has been a challenge. I hope this book will help people that have a noisy dog.

My opinion is it was from what happened at the breeder or it is a trait in the dog. I lean towards being a trait in the dog. However I do agree that owners can make a dog noisy by their actions but that is not my experience with my current dog.

 

[Pete]

What people learn from the book can bleed over to other area's of dog training. No, I don't know what's in the book ,but I do know it will help people either curtail or get rid of noise. And I know those principles are applicable in many other area;s of dog training. I learned a lot from training aggressive dogs that apply to retriever training so my guess you will learn more than how to deal with a noise from Randy's book. I will buy the book if it has Randy's autograph in it.
Pete

 

[bjoiner]

Keep us up to date on when it becomes available. I will buy on. Always open to new ideas.

 

[Tobias]

I respectfully disagree. I am on my 3rd lab and the first two hardly whined at all. My current girl was whining from the day I brought her home and I knew it was going to be a problem. I tried to control it but admittedly I didn’t know exactly how to do it. I read posts and different articles but it has been a challenge. I hope this book will help people that have a noisy dog.

My opinion is it was from what happened at the breeder or it is a trait in the dog. I lean towards being a trait in the dog. However I do agree that owners can make a dog noisy by their actions but that is not my experience with my current dog.

I have never had a puppy come home that didn't whine or howl, or cry for extended periods when crated, or even when walking around with me... I guess by whining, you are meaning non stop all the time? 24/7 except when sleeping?
I believe the goal of Randy's book is to do just that and I think it probably will.

 

[J. Marti]

I guess it really depends on how a person defines 'fault'

When it comes to training and any behavioral issues, I'd agree with Randy, it is never the dog's fault. It only reacts based on what works or has worked for it in the past.

Do I understand your post correctly? Are you saying dogs are not genetically wired for certain behavioral traits, including noisiness?

 

[Tobias]

Do I understand your post correctly? Are you saying dogs are not genetically wired for certain behavioral traits, including noisiness?

Do I understand your post correctly? Are you saying dogs are not genetically wired for certain behavioral traits, including noisiness?

I think vocalizing in some breeds is genetic. But considering that we do not choose to breed a 'baying hound', no, I do not believe labradors pass on the 'barking/screaming/whining' as a trait in and of itself. I do think for our dogs it is a result of frustration and not being able to deal with that frustration.... My bitch, Smarty, bless her soul, definitely had 'frustration/excitement vocalization - not enough to make her impossible to run, but enough to have to keep her tuned up and understanding the parameters of her job ...but none of her pups does, that I have ever been told. So, no, I don't think it's a direct genetic trait... I do not believe there is a 'barking/screaming because I can't get to the bird fast enough' gene.

 

[J. Marti]

I think vocalizing in some breeds is genetic. But considering that we do not choose to breed a 'baying hound', no, I do not believe labradors pass on the 'barking/screaming/whining' as a trait in and of itself. I do think for our dogs it is a result of frustration and not being able to deal with that frustration.... My bitch, Smarty, bless her soul, definitely had 'frustration/excitement vocalization - not enough to make her impossible to run, but enough to have to keep her tuned up and understanding the parameters of her job ...but none of her pups does, that I have ever been told. So, no, I don't think it's a direct genetic trait... I do not believe there is a 'barking/screaming because I can't get to the bird fast enough' gene.

I don't believe vocalization is necessarily the result of ONE gene but it could likely result from inheriting several different genes interacting with and modifying each other. And I believe there are different causes for vocalization--frustration, as you mention, might be one but another might be sheer joy and enthusiasm.

Labradors are not my breed and I am pretty dang stupid about their inherited traits. However, some very famous lab trainers--I am talking trainers who have taken multiple labs to the national open over decades--have said on various podcasts they believe excessive vocalization is an inherited tendency in some lines of Labradors. Maybe like some other breeds, it probably depends on the lineage of your dogs, and some sires combined with some dams will produce it while the same dam paired with a different sire will not. (?)

 

[Tobias]

All the vocal dogs I have seen in the retriever world have been vocal due to frustration. Not being allowed to do what they want to do 'right now'. Restrained. Every. Single. One.
so --- what happened starting at 8 weeks, 10 weeks, 20 weeks -- when they started squeaking. started whining. started getting frustrated because someone was holding them and preventing them from chasing the bird or bumper?

 

[ripline]

I have two males. Can and Eider. Both are quiet as a church mouse at the line and during hunting, but are a royal PITA when transporting via atv's to hunting area or training area. Barking and whining during transport. Haven't been able to stop the behavior. Looking forward to the book!!