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I think my dog may have inhaled some foxtail seeds. Unfortunately I cant get him into the vet until 5pm. However the girl at the desk said a round of anti inflammitorys(sp?) usually does the trick. Or if I want they can go straight to a scope to look for it but they didnt think it was necessary.

Any of you folks have any experience with foxtail? What do you recommend?

Im thinking to go straight to scope and see if they can find the seed and pull it out before it migrates somewhere and causes more trouble.
 
The girl at the desk is she a blonde

I take the dogs in every time they run over the stuff and have a sneeze that doesn't entirely cease. So far foxtail,cheat,or squirrel have been removed each time..
They have to put the dog under a little . I am very fortunate ,my vet is so reasonable I no longer dread the amount of trips needed through out the season.

Get it checked
 
I had a dog inhale a foxtail spear at a trial when he picked up the go bird. He started violently sneezing to the point where he couldn't finish picking up the rest of the birds.

I was walking him off line and another trialer told me to pour Pepsi (any kind of soft drink that has carbonation) into his nostrils.

I held his nose upright and another person administered the Pepsi. We did this two or three times and each time he snorted a bunch of material out.

I took him immmediately to the vet who scoped him and nothing remained lodged in his sinuses.

The theory with the carbonated soft drink is that it somehow binds the barbs on the foxtail back onto the shaft so that the dog can expel it through sneezing etc.

I was told that for this treatment to be effective you needed to do it immediately after the dog inhaled the object before it went too far into the sinus cavity.

Maybe some of the Veterinarians on the site will add light to this.

Good luck with the dog................I'd get him scoped right now.
 
I know it sounds gross, but we always have a small can of pepsi in the car and if we think a dog has inhaled a foxtail, we put the Pepsi in our mouths and blow it down the nostrils. Generally, Florence has been around and does the honors :D
 
I know it sounds gross, but we always have a small can of pepsi in the car and if we think a dog has inhaled a foxtail, we put the Pepsi in our mouths and blow it down the nostrils. Generally, Florence has been around and does the honors :D
The Pepsi Challenge?
 
I know it sounds gross, but we always have a small can of pepsi in the car and if we think a dog has inhaled a foxtail, we put the Pepsi in our mouths and blow it down the nostrils. Generally, Florence has been around and does the honors :D
Had to do this up at Jayhawk this year. I don't see how you could get the coke in there without a mouth to snout injection.
 
Absolutely have them scope. You want that thing out of your dog. Our dog inhaled a seed of some kind upland hunting. By the time we got him to the vet (maybe 10 hours? we were far out into the bush) it was already so far into him they could not get it out, even with a flush of his lungs. It worked it's way out at the end of his ribs and he had a huge abscess. Fortunately he survived. Friends' dogs have not been so lucky. Nothing to fool around with!
 
The anti inflammatories are a good idea. I had a tracking dog that got a bunch of stuff up her nose. She started sneezing repetitively. But, by the time we got to the vet, it was swollen to the point we couldn't get a scope down her nose, or into the cavity from any direction. We had to medicate to get the swelling down. Then, she had another round of sneezing, and sneezed a barbed grass thing onto my bed.... sneezing stopped. No more issues.
 
typically the dog goes into a sneezing fit that will last quite a while .... not just 5 or 10 minutes, after the coke or pepsi they will continue to sneeze for 5-10 minutes then taper to a stop. Taking the dog to a vet right away can give them time to scope and retrieve, waiting till 5pm may then require surgery, the nasal passages of dogs are very very convoluted which is what gives the dog the surface area for all those scent receptors. It may be too late to scope it at 5pm Foxtails can move very quickly in the respritory tract or it may imbed itself in the nasal cavity and you may get lucky.
 
Have not heard of the pepsi idea. Would think that shooting fluid in there could be inhaled into the lungs-. I have baby oil in the trucks . A few drops f that in the nostril lubes it up and softens the FT. I"ve run this by a vet and he concurred it to be a good idea.
 
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Quick update-
Vet didnt find any seeds/awns. However his throat is scratched and blistered so the vet thinks he may have swallowed the stuff. Doing a round of anti inflammatories anyway. But if he starts sneezing or anything its straight back to the vet again.
 
I have my dog's foxtail hanging on the frig. It is the most expensive art work I own. She got a foxtail while she was airing before a training day. She was sneezing and blood was everywhere. I did not know where the vet was located since I was out of town. Lucky for us I found a nice Beagle owner who showed me the way to his Vet. I'm glad I got her in because that thing is big and could of cost much more than what it did.

Terri
 
I have a sterile vial tucked up in a kitchen cupboard containing what I not-so-fondly refer to as the world's most expensive grass awn. I went through this a couple of years ago with Blaze, much of the story has been posted on the board.

The synopsis: Blaze apparently inhaled a grass awn (so we were able to conclude much later after gadzillion blood, urine, tick and other exotic panels, spinal and joint taps, and ultimately major abdominal surgery to remove and flush the oversize abscess that had formed.) After CT confirmed it, it was shown that the awn had traveled through lung, diagphram, and set up shop in the long abdominal muscle, intraperitoneal, ran along aorta, around ureter, over hill and dale until it hit the end of the trail at the back end.

Symptoms: Blaze was intermittently sick for several months, fevers, stiffness, elevated white count, would go away with antibiotics and recur when treatment finished. He ultimately crashed and almost died, rushed to UW Vet, hours of surgery to locate and flush/remove an enormous abdominal abscess caused by a grass awn - and because it stayed "internal", his intermittent illness lingered, made diagnosis very difficult and he kept getting a little worse with each episode. And would have killed him if we hadn't been aggressive in getting a diagnosis. Okay, read that as Lydia being a giant pain about wanting to find a root cause. And it almost killed him anyway.

Between the time he started getting sick to diagnosis was several months. But the surgeons estimated, given the size and length/track of the abscess, that it had been going on for 4-6 months prior. So add in the surgery recuperation and slow steady therapy and PT to get him back to even thinking about training.... it was at least 10 months lost - but at least I didn't lose him. Training can be replaced, Blaze can't be.

Foxtails aren't the only enemy. We in the upper midwest (and far beyond that) have to deal with Canada Wild Rye - unfortunately a cover crop that is very popular amongst wildlife preserves, prairie restorations, etc. It is a wonderful cover crop that will grow in just about all soil types and climates, and is very inexpensive. Unfortunately it has the insidious characteristics that make foxtails so dangerous - the micro spiny barbs that allow the awn to go only in one direction: forward.

It's been posted before but worth noting again, there is a website, www.meanseeds.com, that chronicles The Grass Awn project. There is some good information regarding identification of the culprit botanicals, what to look for, treatment etc. If your vet doesn't see a lot of field dogs, make sure he/she is aware of the potential danger of an invading grass awn. Jeff tells people to watch for what he calls "the head banging sneezing" - where the dog is sneezing so violently and frequently, that they're almost (or are) hitting their head on the floor. That's a big warning sign and not to be ignored.

I carry eye flush and wound flush with me, and make it a routine activity to flush the dogs eyes after running in training or trials, especially this time of year. Doesn't make me popular with the herd when they see me approaching with the walgreens generic eye flush bottle. But they have learned that my squeeze bottle and I will not be denied, so surrender is the better part of valor.

Hadn't heard of the cola treatment.... Do I dare close this well-intended post by wondering about the merits of making my dog snort coke??? (groaner......)


Good luck.
 
Is foxtail a problem in the deep South? I'm in Louisiana, near south Arkansas and East Texas. The foxtail issue sounds AWFUL!
The worst offenders are the Western foxtail and Canadian ryegrass, the former found in California the latter in many states, especially the upper Midwest. Additionally there are many grass seeds which dogs can inhale and while not migratory they can cause local problems in the eyes, ears, nose, throat, and lungs. In the south problems occur most often with cool season grasses that mature and shed seeds in May and June.

For more information visit www.meanseeds.com
 
Dr. Ed- what do you think of the coke or carbonated beverage in the nose remedy that people have mentioned???
 
Dr. Ed- what do you think of the coke or carbonated beverage in the nose remedy that people have mentioned???
I've blown in air and flushed with saline but never heard of the carbonated beverage cure. It would certainly be worth trying although I might use club soda rather Coke or Pepsi.
 
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