Identifying "Panic"

Tony Marshall · Jun 28, 2013

steve schreiner said:
If you are referring to the Op's dog behavior...That kind of behavior is very uncommon and not normal by any stretch of the imagination in my kennel...Steve S

Nor mine, but but thats because we don't allow this kind of misbehavior, not because its uncommon.

steve schreiner · Jun 28, 2013

I had a golden that came out of the kennel that sat and stretched his head up towards you to put the collar on...He associated it with good things about training not a fear of correction or pressure....With the comment claycruncher made about leaving a nylon collar on the dog it appears the dog is making an association with what happens when the other collar is put on..not just a collar in general ...I believe the events that follow are producing the action...As mentioned , check what you are doing ( have done ) in training to see what has caused the reaction....I would bet you will find too much pressure to be the cause...not enough fun for the dog...The time will come when the dog probably will not want to come out of the kennel if things don't change...Time for self evaluation, been there done that as they say.....Steve S

Tony Marshall · Jun 28, 2013

Bottom line is that this is not panic and it is not your training program. This is the dogs last attempt at maintaining control. That is why the dog is carrying the lead around in it's mouth. Anything that the dog has in it's mouth it feels like it controls. That includes your hand which is why he is putting his mouth on it. The solution to the problem is obedience while putting the collar on. Hunt'EmUp had the best answer. Do this and it will solve the problem.

steve schreiner · Jun 28, 2013

Tony , you're right ..It isn't my program...Steve S PS: have a good night and good training day tomorrow...

claycruncher · Jun 28, 2013

Tony Marshall said:
Bottom line is that this is not panic and it is not your training program. This is the dogs last attempt at maintaining control. That is why the dog is carrying the lead around in it's mouth. Anything that the dog has in it's mouth it feels like it controls. That includes your hand which is why he is putting his mouth on it. The solution to the problem is obedience while putting the collar on. Hunt'EmUp had the best answer. Do this and it will solve the problem.

Thanks for all the input. It has forced me to reflect on what has been going on before, during and after getting the collar on. As I said earlier she seems fine once I get the collar on and I start throwing a couple of fun bumpers and then do some obedience work as Hillmann does in his DVD. She handles pressure well when corrected with a yank on her collar when necessary. We then end with some fun bumpers. Her ears are up, tail wagging and looking for more. Yesterday I went to a friends farm to train and the collars went on without a bit of resistance. Go figure! Based on all the excellent input I think Tony's assessment best represents what has been going on. The next time she acts up I will follow Hunt'EmUp's advice and give her a good shaking. Thanks again for helping me better understand her behavior.

claycruncher · Jun 28, 2013

Tony Marshall said:
Bottom line is that this is not panic and it is not your training program. This is the dogs last attempt at maintaining control. That is why the dog is carrying the lead around in it's mouth. Anything that the dog has in it's mouth it feels like it controls. That includes your hand which is why he is putting his mouth on it. The solution to the problem is obedience while putting the collar on. Hunt'EmUp had the best answer. Do this and it will solve the problem.

After thinking more about what Tony said I think he hit the nail on the head...she is trying to maintain control. She constantly wants to hold the lead in her mouth, frequently bites my hands wanting to hold them in her mouth (not viciously but sometimes it hurts!) and resisting putting the collar on. Next time I'll see how she responds to putting an end to her tantrum. It sounds like the right reaction to her behavior.

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