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Kenneth Niles Bora

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HISTORY!!

Man I love history!
And I want to thank RTF member Rnd for the wonderful surprise in my mailbox yesterday!
A couple weeks ago I had a couple of phone conversations after my goose trail thread. About why we all test and hunting dogs vs. testing dogs and why hunt tests started.
Well team.
It don’t get much clearer than the first yellow page below. Side one of the insert of the combination AKC / NAHRA rulebook from 1984!

I have wanted one of these for ages! Thank You Very Much!

I hope you all are able to zoom in and read. Might be ruff for the telephone RTF’ers. Fire up the ol’ desk top if you need to. So, why were hunt tests started? To help hunters have better trained retrievers! Who’d a thunk it?







 
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Where's Omar Driscoll today?
 
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Keith Stroyan said:
This is real cool, Ken. I don't know if I have one in my files. I don't think so. I might have one from AKC ca. Feb 1985.

Do you have the 1985 NAHRA Rule Book?
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sadly no, I do not have ether. And that was the break away year. and UKC's first year wasn't it?
When both the AKC and Ohmar left NAHRA in one swell foop.
I know from earlier like threads Bill Watson had typed he had ether an 85 NAHRA or an 85 AKC. maybe both?
Does anyone have one of the gray ribbons with both the NAHRA seal and the AKC logo????
would love a photo of that please? and a story of the test. anyone???
 
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I have this one: AKC July 1985

I believe this is the first edition??? I could be wrong through...

They say the memory is the 2nd to go...Can't remember what the first was
 
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I was leaving the game about the time all this started. But I was running a test with Omar as judge and he dropped my dog for refusing to pick up a blind. Kept handling back to the spot, dog wouldn't pick it up. Omar told me to whistle the dog in. I told him there was no bird out there. He just laughed at me. I started walking out to it and the judges had to follow me... sure enough, no one had planted the bird.

Hadn't thought about that for almost 30 years. Amazing how it can still make my blood pressure rise. Oh, well...
 
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Rnd said:
I have this one as well 1985: NAHRA Rule Book, ...
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I wish I had kept the two 1985 books, but didn't. (I have a couple later ones.) I had correspondence with AKC Field Director, A. Hamilton Rowen, in January. He said the split with NAHRA was un-expected, but I had their printed rule book soon after.

Could you scan the part about a trail off a blind from the NAHRA book? That was eliminated in later editions.
 
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Keith Stroyan said:
I wish I had kept the two 1985 books, but didn't. (I have a couple later ones.) I had correspondence with AKC Field Director, A. Hamilton Rowen, in January. He said the split with NAHRA was un-expected, but I had their printed rule book soon after.

Could you scan the part about a trail off a blind from the NAHRA book? That was eliminated in later editions.
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section 13 g bottom of page 19 on to your section i, page 20 very simple. great for ditches and such that the handler can not cross. send dog to the start of the trail and hunt it up



 
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Keith Stroyan said:
Ken,
What's the corresponding section of Senior? You copied "tracking" (later changed to "trailing" because "tracking" has a technical meaning) from the Intermediate section, I believe.
Keith
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you are right,
I used int 'cause senior does not have line " i " at all, the best
discription of the trail / track is in int.
 
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Keith,

I believe this is the section which allowed trails off of blinds:

From the 1985 edition of NAHRA rules; Notice it mentions hand signals to the beginning of the trail then a single sentence stating that ....... Simulating crippled retrieves may be used.

ie. Handle to beginning of trail (blind X yards) then release dog to "find it" "hunt it up " etc.etc.

 
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