Ive been seeing alot of different pricing for started dogs that are about at the same level. So if you have a FCxMH thats been trained up to TT, what makes you determine the price. Ive seen them go from 1500 all the way up to 4500. Is this just how bad they want to get rid of the dog or a personal thing?
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Ive been seeing alot of different pricing for started dogs that are about at the same level. So if you have a FCxMH thats been trained up to TT, what makes you determine the price. Ive seen them go from 1500 all the way up to 4500. Is this just how bad they want to get rid of the dog or a personal thing?
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Everyone is different but I price my started dogs based on current skill set. Take the average number of months that it would take to get a dog to that level from six months of age. That way you are basically paying the same amount as you would if you bought a puppy and sent them to training. That does not factor in all the time spent raising them from a puppy or feed and other care during that time so in most cases you are coming out ahead. The problem is that people have different definitions of what started, seasoned, and finished means. I like to use the written standards set forth by the AKC and UKC for a dog of that level. That way there is a defensible and measurable standard with which to judge the dog against.
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Most FcxMH pups sell for $1000 to $1500 at 8 weeks and to get a dog trained correctly to TT you will have most likely a year of training in them if not more. The question is if it was all done correctly without any holes in there training also how good the dog is marking how much go they have ,training attitude etc.
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Regardless of what the ad says, I believe that ANY dog being advertized to be sold, is being washed out.
The reason that the dog is being washed out, factors into the price at least as much as pedigree.
Once you know (or think you know) how good (or bad) of a dog that you have, pedigree only matters for breeding.
Find out why the dog is being sold.
That isn't the same thing as asking the seller why the dog is being sold.
You need to FIND OUT why the dog is being sold.
The Cops don't take the word of the suspect as Gospel.
They do ask them questions, but that's just part of the investigation to find out the truth.
There are plenty of GREAT deals on started dogs.
You can easily get the best dog of your entire lifetime, for a fraction of what you would have paid to train and raise that dog from a puppy, to the point that it's at when you buy it.
The seller almost always takes a monumental loss.
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I agree with most of what you have said, but not this: "believe that ANY dog being advertized to be sold, is being washed out."
There are a lot of reasons that people sell started dogs.
1) Some prefer working with young dogs, and then selling them to help finance their hobby.
2) To put a young dog into someone else's hands and watch it become a player is a point of pride.
3) Some prefer the training over competing.
4)Young dogs generally don't require the time and resources that All-Age dogs will. 1 trainer with one helper can accomplish lot.
5) Some people see an opportunity to finance other priorities in life by doing something they enjoy.
6) Generally speaking, the more dogs you can put your hands on, the better trainer/ handler you can become.
Anyone care to add to this list?
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I'm not sure if you're kidding or just clueless. I think Scott described it pretty well, there are plenty of reasons to sell a dog besides it being a washout.
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Epic fail.
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The only other things I would add to this list are
Financial hardship
Divorce
Just because someone is selling a dog doesn't mean it's what they really want to do.
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The opposite of washing a dog out, is contributing to its success. Why would anyone put their money into a washout, and then enter it into AKC events?
What don't you understand?
What don't you understand?
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I dont think so either. Ive had a few myself I sold because they have had more potential to be successful being with someone else. I have seen people also train and buy pups just to sell them past transition because they love training young dogs. Thats there thing.
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yes and work requirements. Dont have enough time and its not fair to the pup
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Jeeze, did you not even read Scott's reasoned response?
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Way off Base there
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I sold one that required a very very very high standard and honestly I grew tired of the constant battle, loved the dog to death but it was taking all the fun out of training and no he wasn't a wash out ( at the time)..
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I think people have differences in what they consider a washout. Myself a washout can be a dog who has shown traits that are undesirable to the trainer. Or a dog that may need more time to be trained to a desired level than the trainer has or is willing to put in. As others have pointed dog can be washed out for financial reasons as well. Lack of time and money could definitely be the reason, something we all know training a dog takes a lot of. Just because a dog is a washout with one trainer doesn't mean that same dog wont become a superstar with a different trainer.
To the OP, think breeding plays a lot a into pricing, and the reputation of the trainer producing well trained dogs. Doesn't mean that you wont find a lot of high priced dogs with less desirable pedigrees being advertised also, that have received questionable training. The big thing is do your research before buying the dog. Figure out what your willing to pay, what kind of bloodlines you are looking for and gather a list of trainers you know are producing well trained dogs and go from there. Like any dog purchase don't be in a hurry, take the time and wait for a good dog that fits your needs if you have to. The purchase price of the dog is drop in the bucket compared to what you will spend through out its lifetime in care and training bills.
To the OP, think breeding plays a lot a into pricing, and the reputation of the trainer producing well trained dogs. Doesn't mean that you wont find a lot of high priced dogs with less desirable pedigrees being advertised also, that have received questionable training. The big thing is do your research before buying the dog. Figure out what your willing to pay, what kind of bloodlines you are looking for and gather a list of trainers you know are producing well trained dogs and go from there. Like any dog purchase don't be in a hurry, take the time and wait for a good dog that fits your needs if you have to. The purchase price of the dog is drop in the bucket compared to what you will spend through out its lifetime in care and training bills.
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1. Not all dogs are created equal.
2. A buyer evaluating two dog advertised as being trained to the same level may disagree with those making the claim.
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