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i am glad that the cdc, which can't seem to help itself from shipping live anthrax and flesh eating bacteria around via pony express, at least is able to do something about the scourge of rabid puppies from canada.


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what would brian boitano do?
omg!!! Lmao!!!
 
Are you sure this is new? When I imported a pup 6 months ago, the CDC had the same requirement, but also listed an exemption for pups too young to have the vaccine. You had to sign a form saying you would quarantine the pup until the vaccine was given.
Agree that this is not new as we had a potential puppy buyer mention this early in 2013. They were told they could get an exemption (seemed to be specific to the state of California). We were not able to supply them with the puppy they were looking for, so to be honest I totally forgot about it.
 
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What is new is the part that 8 week old puppies aren't just allowed in because they are 'too young for rabies vaccination' anymore, which has always been the case previously, and the confinement agreement was not universally required (I was required to submit it only once out of a dozen or more puppies that have gone to US homes, so seemed to be at the will of the agent). Now when you inquire they say 'this is not a new ruling' - but it really is a significant change to the previous rule, since you can not just show up at the border and wait to see if you'll get asked to sign the confinement agreement or not. You now should expect that you will be turned away at the border if you have an unvaccinated dog, regardless of age, unless you have been pre-approved for the confinement agreement. This was posted on the CDC website on July 16th but is going into effect on August 9th. http://www.cdc.gov/animalimportatio...ssuance-enforcement-guidance-dog-confinement-agreements.html#.U8hJlDxhsAo.email

On this page they have a link where one can write to plead their case for an exemption. Basically, this just means that if the CDC agrees that the reasons for requesting are compelling, instead of waiting until the puppy is 4 months old to import it, the person applying may bring in the unvaccinated puppy and will sign a legal document upon importation that they will keep the puppy confined until 30 days after it's rabies vaccination (which means it will need to be confined in their home until 4 months of age- with warning of criminal proceedings if they fail to follow the confinement order). From what I've gathered in my last 24 hours of frantic research, this isn't something they are going to allow just for convenience sake, nor 'on the spot', and also isn't exactly the most ideal way to raise a puppy if even one is allowed. One of my buyers inquired and was initially told no and then a few hours later received approval to sign the confinement agreement upon her arrival at US customs with the puppy. They actually will not even send her a copy of the agreement in advance, she has had to make an appointment at customs to sign it before she can be allowed into the US with the puppy. The other buyer was told no and has not yet received any sort of change of heart notification :(
 
I could care less if they close the boarder. The way Canadian government treats Americans could care less if US shuts the boarder off. Anyone with even as much as a 30 year old convictions for drunk driving stopped and not allowed into the country. Guns laws that are rediculous and now e-collar banning! Got plenty of top notch US bred dogs no need for anyone to bring a dog in from their. JMO
 
I could care less if they close the boarder. The way Canadian government treats Americans could care less if US shuts the boarder off. Anyone with even as much as a 30 year old convictions for drunk driving stopped and not allowed into the country. Guns laws that are rediculous and now e-collar banning! Got plenty of top notch US bred dogs no need for anyone to bring a dog in from their. JMO
I think you may still be drunk.
 
Scott Anderson from Razor labs called and also posted on here that he would refund my deposit. I feel sorry for him if this thing sticks.

No Drive its their country at least they follow their laws unlike our admin, you are correct about alot of good dogs here but I wanted a pup from this breeding and if it doesnt happen it will be very disapointing hopfully it will work out. Quarantine in the house for 60-90 days wont be good for socializing the young fellow, either way this is blows on alot of different levels

Thanks Scott we will wait to hear from you

Steve
 
OMG!.......You have to be kidding

I could care less if they close the boarder. The way Canadian government treats Americans could care less if US shuts the boarder off. Anyone with even as much as a 30 year old convictions for drunk driving stopped and not allowed into the country. Guns laws that are rediculous and now e-collar banning! Got plenty of top notch US bred dogs no need for anyone to bring a dog in from their. JMO
 
I could care less if they close the boarder. The way Canadian government treats Americans could care less if US shuts the boarder off. Anyone with even as much as a 30 year old convictions for drunk driving stopped and not allowed into the country. Guns laws that are rediculous and now e-collar banning! Got plenty of top notch US bred dogs no need for anyone to bring a dog in from their. JMO
I am from Canada and I do alot of cross border. I don't want to ever see the border shut. I know some laws appear ridiculous but a lot has changed over the years. Anyone from Canada can't get into your country if they have a conviction either. So the laws are interesting both ways. Keep the border open. :) And I don't think I can just bring a firearm into your country without talking to a specific department. I agree Ecollar banning is ridiculous but I don't think you can sell collars is Calif??? Correct me if I am wrong. Laws work in mysterious ways as they don't appear to have much common sense. But guess who makes them and they (the politicians) don't have much common sense! IMHO
 
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Hey you guys make sure you check it out for yourselves, on this end we have been getting different answers depending on who answers the phone- and Steve it doesn't hurt to ask for an exemption before you give up hope (all you have to do is send an email pleading your case- I'd make reference to the fact that your puppy purchase was planned in advance, you have travel plans booked, and that training for your particular dog is required to start at 8 weeks).

There is so much confusion that I am still hinging on the hope that this can't possibly be correct...

Scott I agree that this is so frustrating and disheartening, please if any of you guys learns something different than what I have posted, let me know.



This is the generic email response I got to my inquiry about alternatives (despite the fact that they say this is not new, the changes essentially make it 'new', and if it's not new why does it have an effective date in August and not immediately?!)

Thank you for your inquiry to CDC-INFO. Your request for information on the new regulations on dog importation was forwarded to subject-matter experts at the appropriate CDC division. We hope you find their response helpful.

CDC's dog importation regulations require that dogs be fully immunized against rabies before being imported into the United States. The rabies vaccination must be administered no earlier than 12 weeks of age and must have been administered at least 30 days before arrival at a U.S. port of entry. Therefore, the youngest that a puppy may be imported to the United States is 4 months of age.

CDC's requirements are not new and have been in place for many years. CDC recently published Issuance and Enforcement Guidance for Dog Confinement Agreements (http://www.cdc.gov/animalimportatio...n/lawsregulations/issuance-enforcement-guidance-dog-confinement-agreements.html) that clarified the circumstances under which inadequately immunized dogs may be imported to the United States, provided that the importers of the dogs agree to confine the dogs until they are fully immunized. These confinement agreements are only intended to be used under limited circumstances where the importer of the dogs has no alternative to delay importing the dogs until they are fully immunized as required by CDC regulations.

The Issuance and Enforcement Guidance is effective on August 11, 2014. There are no blanket exemptions being given for importers of dogs purchased before the publication of the Issuance and Enforcement Guidance. CDC recommends that importers who have already purchased dogs make arrangements to delay the import of their dogs until the dogs are fully immunized against rabies. However, individual importers may contact CDC at CDCAnimalImports@cdc.gov<mailto:CDCAnimalImports@cdc.gov> to discuss their specific circumstances.

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Just a note, for those that are just talking about Canada and the border....it's not. It's all countries. Apparently it is in response to dogs imported from Russia and Afghanistan with rabies according to a vet friend.

Sue
 
Funny that the US is a country considered NOT free of rabies in the first place.
 
There is a street puppy express from Mexico....I would imagine it is intended to curb that more than responsibly bred working dogs....
 
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