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Ok this may sound silly but I am having a huge battle with my seniors at nail check. To be honest for many many years maybe 1 nail needed a slight tip. They are ok with that but start on another nail and war breaks out. No growling or snarling but they are strong! Amazing that I have to help one of them across a small area of slippy floor but he can pull his feet away and kick so hard. Any suggestions? Long nails make them slip more.
Thanks in advance
 
I've found McD's double cheese burgers, work ;). Much easier with 2 people; one to hold and feed small bits of Burger & the other one to trim. Still the burger keeps them distracted from their tootsies, but you better be done before the cheese burger is gone ;)
 
Do you have access to a concrete run...yet to see a dog that's been on concrete that needs its nails trimmed.You would be amazed what a day or two on concrete will do.Jim
 
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I've found McD's double cheese burgers, work ;). Much easier with 2 people; one to hold and feed small bits of Burger & the other one to trim. Still the burger keeps them distracted from their tootsies, but you better be done before the cheese burger is gone ;)
We'll the ultimate bribe is actually homemade pumpkin peanut butter cookies. Forget McD,s. I hate the war even using 2 people. Many years ago I got spoiled. Had a lab that gave you his paw asking for a nail trim.
 
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Do you have access to a concrete run...yet to see a dog that's been on concrete that needs its nails trimmed.You would be amazed what a day or two on concrete will do.Jim
My dogs are indoor but must cross a large concrete patio to get to the lawn to potty. This is a bit of a senior issue. That is why they have maybe needed one nail tipped every few months for years. The youngest is10. They are on concrete all the time. Large concrete walk to the grass.
 
Do you use a dremel? I've had the most success with it versus clippers. Also try getting them up off the ground (grooming table is best, but tailgate will work) so they are not as sure footed and more likely to cooperate.
 
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Do you use a dremel? I've had the most success with it versus clippers. Also try getting them up off the ground (grooming table is best, but tailgate will work) so they are not as sure footed and more likely to cooperate.
I use clippers. A couple are not sure footed at all. Just do better on grass and carpet. They kick with strength lying down! I have runners around the house just for them
 
I don't think I will ever be lucky enough again to not have to worry about trimming nails. My chessie was quite good at keeping his own nails trimmed to the quick. He would chew each one down on every foot. Never thought nail biting would be a 'dog' thing. LOL ...
 
You might try a dremel. Walmart has a cordless one for about $25. Use a fairly rough grinding wheel and it goes real fast.
 
This won't help now but for the next dog. I dremel. They all start as puppies. Lots of treats. On a grooming table. Or a tailgate. Whatever. Touch a nail get a treat. Takes a little while but all my dogs start drooling when the dremel comes out. They sit or lay down for their nails.

The other thing to consider for old dogs is arthritis in their feet. No holding their feet tight. I just lightly hold a toe at a time. A lot of times with our old working dogs that is the main issue.
 
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You might try a dremel. Walmart has a cordless one for about $25. Use a fairly rough grinding wheel and it goes real fast.
Worth a try. Money is not the issue rather seniors accepting nail trims. I have a pedi paws that was a gift several years ago and they ran in fear. I tried all the usual treats etc. it's just hard to have a battle with the old guys.
 
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This won't help now but for the next dog. I dremel. They all start as puppies. Lots of treats. On a grooming table. Or a tailgate. Whatever. Touch a nail get a treat. Takes a little while but all my dogs start drooling when the dremel comes out. They sit or lay down for their nails.

The other thing to consider for old dogs is arthritis in their feet. No holding their feet tight. I just lightly hold a toe at a time. A lot of times with our old working dogs that is the main issue.
They are all fine with touch feet. I teach CGC. These guys learned this when little. They just have never needed anything than a slight tip on one nail before. Two are tdi dogs. Find the dog under the pile of kids. What lab needs a grooming table? Stand stay brush. Anyone can do anything to them. That's the frustrating thing.
 
The grooming table is for my back. :p
 
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The grooming table is for my back. :p
Doesn't help when they get really old and need a boost to get up in their feet and moving! Ask me how I know .
 
I've had three standard poodles and I've always done my own grooming. (It's so hard to get that run-over-with-a-lawn-mower look when you rely on a professional groomer.) Anyway, what everyone has said is true easier to get them used to toenail trimming young, much easier on a table.

That said, I've also had a couple of non-poodle rescue dogs, both large, that came to me when they were 7.5 and 8 years old, respectively. I'm nearly 100% certain neither had ever had their nails trimmed, much less been on a grooming table. As they got older and were less active, nail trimming was a must. (Both had dewclaws, too, which had gotten long by the time they came to me.)

As you noted, you don't want to get into a battle with an old dog; too great a risk of injury. Getting either one of my old ladies on the grooming table was out of the question, too. Too big and too frightened at the prospect.

I trimmed their nails with them lying on their sides and me kneeling next to their back and leaning across their bodies. (A killer for my middle-aged knees and back.)

A few tips:
1) Never "surprise" them with the nail trimmers. Tell them that it's time for nails.
2) Get them used to lying on their sides while you hold their feet first, before you introduce the trimmers. Reward them for each handled paw if they are calm with a GOOD treat. Nothing that says "dog" on the package. Use hot dogs, lunch meat, cheese, beef jerky for people, pieces of meat, etc.
3) A common mistake of people who don't groom dogs often is to soothe them at the wrong time. They say "Relax, That's a good boy, etc." while the dog is struggling. Don't be that person. To the dog, it can sound like praise for struggling. Instead, either say "No, calm down" in a calm but non-threatenting voice or say nothing at all while they struggle. The instant they relax say "Good boy, that's a boy!" and give them one of the super-high-quality treats.
4) After you've gotten them looking forward to lying on their side with you lying over them holding their feet, introduce the nail trimmer. At first, they get a big treat for every single nail. You may want to do only one foot at a time to start. (Or even one nail!)
5) Most dogs are a little calmer with a Dremel than clippers. Use the drum sander attachment and the #60 grit. The #120 is too fine. If the nail is getting hot but isn't getting ground away, you are using too fine a grit or you need to replace the sanding cylinder. Buy them in large quantities. It should take only a few seconds per nail. Best to use a battery operated Dremel, not the corded type. If you catch your hair or your dogs hair in the battery-operated one, the battery is not strong enough to wrap up hair as tightly as the electric.
6) I used to use a Dremel all the time, but got a little tired of it. The battery runs out of juice fast and you have to replace them every year or two. I went back to clippers. If you use clippers, use only sharp clippers. As soon as they start getting a little dull, toss them out and get a new pair. Otherwise, you'll be crushing the nails instead of making a clean cut.
7) Don't cut into the quick! Better to leave them a little long for next time than to give the poor dog a bad attitude by cutting into the quick.
 
What we tell our clients that come in for grooming with new puppies is do 1 nail or 1 paw a day. Same with brushing. It doesn't all have to be done at once. If they are ok with you doing the one then just do the one. You can eventually work up to all at once.
 
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