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Rocky Mountain Fall Field Trial

61 Open Entries @ $90/each
33 Amateur Entries @ $80/each
24 Qualifying Entries @ $75/each
24 Derby Entries @ $75/each

Total amount $11,730

Of that amount, Entry Express receives $496.10

Breakdown of EE service charge
- 107 Field Trial Catalogs @ $2.50/each, $267.50
- AKC Application Fee, $35
- EE Application Fee (so I don't have to hassle with the AKC), $25
- Ribbon Set up Fee, $25
- Ribbons (40 @ $3.59/each), $143.60

I am pretty sure that there isn't much left of the $496.10 that Entry Express received from Rocky Mountain after deducting cost of services (including credit card fees), that constitutes profit

If anyone thinks that they are making a bundle of money, I suggest that they enter the game and see how much fun that is

Ted
Did I say anything about profits? NO.

But I think millions of dollars flows through Entry Express on an annual basis.

Millions!
 
They are making money off advertising also. The Retriever News is a Corporation with officers and a board of directors. I guarantee that they are making money with EE. It may not be a cash cow but it is paying the bills and adding value to the corporation. Anyone that says it doesn't is living in a fantasy world.

You think that just because the Retriever News is a corporation, it is making money? Really? Anyone who reads the business section of the paper sees stories on corporations closing their doors.
 
Did I say anything about profits? NO.

But I think millions of dollars flows through Entry Express.
If they don't keep any of those dollars, it is meaningless to this conversation
 
It's a wonderful service.

We pay to use it. No one wants to go back to the old way.

Something has happened to cause it to stop working.

It's a major problem for everyone right now. It sounds like it will be up and operating again soon.

Like everything else, they're going to charge us more eventually. We will cry "foul" and we'll all complain.
 
It's a wonderful service.

We pay to use it. No one wants to go back to the old way.

Something has happened to cause it to stop working.

It's a major problem for everyone right now. It sounds like it will be up and operating again soon.

Like everything else, they're going to charge us more eventually. We will cry "foul" and we'll all complain.
And on top of that...we will take it for granted until it breaks. :)
Then all hell breaks loose...heaven forbid.
 
It's a wonderful service.

We pay to use it. No one wants to go back to the old way.

Something has happened to cause it to stop working.

It's a major problem for everyone right now. It sounds like it will be up and operating again soon.

Like everything else, they're going to charge us more eventually. We will cry "foul" and we'll all complain.

I agree with this.
 
its been interesting reading what Shayne has said about it on FB. this was going to happen sooner or later and sometimes cutting corners to save some money isnt always the best choice. like i said, switching to go daddy was the first red flag
 
My guess on the probable cause of the problem;

EE is hosted through GoDaddy. I know several people with GoDaddy sites who have not had any problems. But GoDaddy is in the process of eliminating some of their legacy servers. These are the servers that host applications built on older platforms or using older databases. So if EE was built using the Access data base or an early version of SQL database, and used asp files to call or save data used in their web pages, they may have been informed of the need to migrate their application to a newer server. Unfortunately, some of the GoDaddy client service techs don't know much about legacy programming and can't read some of the older languages. The one who called me about my website was insistent that I didn't have a database attached to my webpages. I had to end him snippets of the code to assure him that there was a database attached. So if EE relied on the GoDaddy client service folk and took their word for it that the transfer would be seamless, and had GoDaddy go ahead with the migration, the wheels would fall off big time. Sad part is that they won't be retiring tho old servers for several more months, so the migration could have been made in a less eventful manner. Of course it would still involve a complete rewrite of the application in a more current language and the migration of all the data to a new database! What is very scary is that it easy to visualize that the data has been corrupted and is going to require a rewind of the data to a new index point. If the database hasn't been configured for this it may mean a total loss of all data and a restart of the application.
 
Bad karma, no communication, poor timing, and lots of pressure from this new format.
Got $20 any takers, actually not legal here , sorry Chris.
The average repair time for a server is about 1/2 hour, up to 2 1/2 hours, and in a worse case scenario about 24 hours. New parts can get over nite delivery. I am sure you business savy people know that you get disconnected from your server for not paying the bill, whether by accident or for another reason. I really like Entry Express, regardless of the reason for this dilemma. Wish them the best and hope they can recover from this.
 
We need an entry service in this sport. EE has been great for a long time and I don't think anyone here wants they to fail.
I hope they are back up soon.
the thing that worries me is that they are usually quick to post on here what is going on. The silence seems like a bad thing.
 
We need an entry service in this sport. EE has been great for a long time and I don't think anyone here wants they to fail.
I hope they are back up soon.
the thing that worries me is that they are usually quick to post on here what is going on. The silence seems like a bad thing.
I for one am not thrilled at the prospect of setting up our field trial on the AKC website, a task as I recall was laborious and frustrating. If EE is not up soon there will be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
 
I wonder if EE has insurance for club losses because there are big problems for this weekend.
 
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