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Trevor Toberny

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friend has been looking for a good ft dog. they have been out of his price range but he found one that happens to be almost 8 years old but still runs hard and has won an amateur before. if he was fairly priced would this be a good deal for my friend to jump on to get more line time experience? how man8,9 and 10 year olds do you see running every year. thanks
 
Who sells an 8 year old unless he is the National Winner. He may have 1 or 2 years left. But 8 years old?
 
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people that need to for a financial reason or one that may be in best nterest of dog.
may have a high powered dog that loves to retrieve but work situations may take you out of country for next year or two and this was the dog gets to run and do what he loves. one of my questions was how many of yall have had a dog that is 7.8 years old but still were able to run plenty of trials with him
 
Given good health lots of dogs have their most successful competitive years at 8 and 9.
 
My take, assuming your friend is looking for line time, I'd look for a younger dog that is just running Qs....this way your friend can learn about handling in a trial at a level that is a little more forgiving....it's hard to get experience going out in the 1st series of the Am, but in the Q getting to the blinds are better odds. With an 8 year old, you have to also consider just how many tries your friend will get at the line... FT schedule, time to train and transition, health of dog, etc should be considered....that's just my take.
 
I couldn't sell a 2 year old, let alone one I had for 8 years. I guess I'm funny that way to me they are family if the dog isn't doing all I want I look at myself to what I did wrong. but I've been married to the same woman for 47 years
 
Given good health lots of dogs have their most successful competitive years at 8 and 9.
I would echo this. My FC/AFC Freeridin Smooth Operator (Mootsie), with whom Ed is very familiar (being the offspring of FC/AFC Trumarc's Lean Cuisine), was tremendously competitive in years 8 and 9. I double staked Mootsie in the Open and AM, and she would often be a healthy scratch in the AM because she was running well in the Open and I wanted to keep the miles down on her as much as possible. I would love to have another one like her
 
My take, assuming your friend is looking for line time, I'd look for a younger dog that is just running Qs....this way your friend can learn about handling in a trial at a level that is a little more forgiving....it's hard to get experience going out in the 1st series of the Am, but in the Q getting to the blinds are better odds. With an 8 year old, you have to also consider just how many tries your friend will get at the line... FT schedule, time to train and transition, health of dog, etc should be considered....that's just my take.
Ditto. I also may add and meet some resistance. But I dont know about anyone else, but when I have an older dog who gets "through" 8 and 9, I breathe a sigh of relief. Known of a lot of labradors who got cancer at that age. I would never buy one that age. The two I lost to cancer , one was 8 and one barely made it to 9. Others I hear of the same-
 
I took on a dog at 8yr. ran him until 10yr. put a GMHR-I and HRCH on him, never failed a test. Even did a couple of FTs, where my handler inadequacies came to light in a big way ;). Lost him to cancer at 10yr. the same year his sister won the Canadian amateur national. I consider 10 yrs. too young, it was quite a surprise. The dog never showed any age related conditions to hinder performance, and most dogs of his lines run until ~12, when the hearing starts to go. I do not regret taking the dog on. I only wish I had got him neutered when I got him, simply because I've noticed that dogs seem to live longer once they are fixed. Still he taught me a bunch and allowed me to play in the upper stakes right away, wouldn't trade those memories. If your talking a dog that's showing consistently in the upper stakes, and that's where you want to be; whelp you could invest a lot of time and money into a bunch of dogs that might never get there. IMO might as well be running the stake, getting experience while waiting for other dogs to make it up the ranks.

As to why the owner allowed me to take him on? It was because I needed experience and the dog needed to run. The owner a pro had a bunch of other dogs who he needed to train and run. So his experienced dog wasn't getting the time-attention he deserved, traveling all over the country with me was better than sitting on the couch ;).
 
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