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got a dog question for someone that may have the same issue as me. I have an 8 month old male black lab with one of his testicles that has yet to come down, iv reached out to several vets that say i should cut him after a year due to increased risk of cancer. with that said has anyone else had this problem and what did you decide to do? if you decided to neuter them how did it effect them with growth, hunting and hunt tests and overall drive and attitude? thanks for any help.
 
got a dog question for someone that may have the same issue as me. I have an 8 month old male black lab with one of his testicles that has yet to come down, iv reached out to several vets that say i should cut him after a year due to increased risk of cancer. with that said has anyone else had this problem and what did you decide to do? if you decided to neuter them how did it effect them with growth, hunting and hunt tests and overall drive and attitude? thanks for any help.
Our male had the same issue and we neutered him at around age 2. They couldn't find the undescended testicle during surgery. Apparently that's quite uncommon? His growth was fine, he hunts well and tests well. His drive is still over the top and we haven't noticed any attitude change. Weight gain hasn't been an issue but he is a crazy one so that may help. Good luck!

 
If you are concerned about the drop in hormone level, you can leave in the descended testicle and remove the other. Not removing the other significantly increases the risk of cancer.

The dog should not be bred. This is a genetic trait that can be passed.
 
If you are concerned about the drop in hormone level, you can leave in the descended testicle and remove the other. Not removing the other significantly increases the risk of cancer.

The dog should not be bred. This is a genetic trait that can be passed.
Would that trait be from the bitch side or Sire side?
 
Would that trait be from the bitch side or Sire side?
As far as I know there have been several theories (females being "carriers") but not convincing proof, but I will defer to Dr Ed. Again, I have only had a few and none related. I have known breeders have them rarely come down up to a year. There is no hurry to neuter, and it is better to leave them intact because of growth factors until they fill out. Some of the people with the inherited drama are maybe dealing with dogs excessively going back to the same dog in the pedigrees
 
Would that trait be from the bitch side or Sire side?
Most likely both; It's generally believed to be genetic recessive, not sure there much research into pinpoint the gene. Affected individuals can only ever be males, females don't have the necessary equipment to see the condition. As most males with the condition will not be bred, they are cut out of the population. Males that might still carry the tendency but not show it, will still be bred, females carrying or affected (as it cannot be seen) will continue to be bred. Thus the condition, could go forward in both but statistically would be more likely to remain hidden in females. Unless a gene were identified, the only option is for breeders keep track of their stock, and look at both sides. Still by the time you know if you've produced such males, you already have a litter with individuals that could be genetically prone to the trait. Was it the female? the male?, or the combo? Basically a big ole mess, that if genetic will most likely continue on. Research-wise, funding is more likely to look at genetics related to detrimental or incurable conditions, however this one is easily corrected and only affects individuals that wish to breed later. Unless research is put into it to prove it's genetic and that there's a gene that can be screened for; Not much that anyone can do except keep records, research lines, and not redo breedings that result in the condition.

Interesting read
http://www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/cryptorchidism-is-complicated
 
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Thanks for the feedback Iv contacted both breeders and all the other males have both down. And the father of my puppy has fathered many liters with none having this problem. I'm thinking he could just be a the fluke and maybe something else prevented it from coming down.
 
My only question is what is a "non-rescinded testicle"?
 
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