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In a senior test this weekend, the honor dog was a bit behind me and to the left; s/he loudly barked/howled/cried as the birds went down and I sent my dog. My Monty is extremely focused and did not seem bothered by the commotion, but I was. I'd guess an inexperienced or younger dog may have been disturbed by the racket. How do the judges feel about this? If my dog had turned towards the honor dog, would this have been interference?
 
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From the rule book:

Section 10. In Junior, Senior and Master Hunting
Tests, a dog shall come tractably at heel and sit promptly
at the point designated by its handler and remain quietly
where placed until given further orders. Dogs that
bark or whine on line, in a blind or while retrieving shall
be scored low in Trainability. Loud and prolonged barking
or whining is sufficient cause to justify grading a
dog “0” in Trainability.
 
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If the running dog were distracted, the howling from honor dog would have been interference. If the running dog did not mark well on the series and depending on what exactly was happening, I would consider rerunning it.
In regards to the honoring dog, if it interfered then that would normally mean a zero. If the noise did not interfere with the running dog, I would mark it down quite a bit. But I would normally take the other trainability performance into account. It is a senior level, and if the trainability were good in other areas (walking to line, when running, blinds) and depending on what exactly I saw, I might give the honor dog a 2 to 4 on that aspect, and leave room for good trainability through the rest of the test to bring the dog to a pass. Or if it seemed as extreme as described, I would consider a zero.
 
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Christine, is the extremely focused dog your referring to the dog that ran out of the holding blind without out you and prompted the "no here, heel" tirade that caused the judges to warn you about excessive loud yelling at the dog to regain control? I train the honor dog and his owner ran him. While he was louder than we let him be in training, he did not move an inch and his noise was below an acceptable level even in master.

how you coming on teaching heel?

/Paul
 
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Gun_Dog2002 said:
Christine, is the extremely focused dog your referring to the dog that ran out of the holding blind without out you and prompted the "no here, heel" tirade that caused the judges to warn you about excessive loud yelling at the dog to regain control? I train the honor dog and his owner ran him. While he was louder than we let him be in training, he did not move an inch and his noise was below an acceptable level even in master.

how you coming on teaching heel?

/Paul
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Oh, good! The RTF Demo Derby! That's almost as good as the bus! :wink:
 
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As many here know, I believe a picture tells the best story. Here is the scenario as presented. Now keep in mind, I didn't have a very good view of the action as I was 15 feet away. Clearly Cindy (judge) was concerned with the extreme distraction coming from Dennis and Bruin. The working dog and handler both seem to be extremely distracted as well. I can't believe tragedies like this are allowed. Someone call the HT committee....

/Paul

I believe this first picture was taken while Cindy was explaining yelling at your dog was not allowed....
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How come the WD handler isn't holding a gun?
 
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K G said:
I particularly like the dark, camoflaged, or customary hunting attire.... :roll:
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It would be awfully hard for that judge to require customary hunting clothing. Like judge, like handler, perhaps?


Are we sure this was a real test? No gun, no decoys, no camo.
 
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CNBarnes said:
K G said:
I particularly like the dark, camoflaged, or customary hunting attire.... :roll:
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It would be awfully hard for that judge to require customary hunting clothing. Like judge, like handler, perhaps?


Are we sure this was a real test? No gun, no decoys, no camo.
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Well, actually her clothing was camo, there was decoys and most handlers did carry a gun but I think in the confusion of explaining to the newly approved master judge that yelling at your dog in that manner was unnaccetpable she got away with no gun. Didn't seem worth it to call no bird and make her go back for a stick...

Wasn't it you I believe that posted on here that to encourage the growth of the sport that leniancy was at times the "right" think to do?



/Paul
 
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