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If it is caused by an autosomal recessive gene, the test will be similar to the CNM test. Dogs will be clear, carriers or affected.
 
Just to confirm Aussie great news here is an email from Katie Minor at UM, I received today.
Hi Michael, We believe we may have found it. Right now we are running additional tests to confirm our finding, but it looks like we may be publishing soon. All I can say about it, is that it looks to be autosomal recessive. Katie
 
There needs to be a process that provides full disclosure of test results like the CNM white list or some similar means of official public disclosure. While some involved in breeding have been forthright with health information about their dogs other breeders and owners of well-known studs have denied and continue to deny that there are any health issues related to pups produced by their dogs. Further they continue to breed as if there are no issues, damn the effect on the field Labrador breed. So now is the time that an outcry by the consuming public is needed to insure that politics do not result in private testing with no disclosure.

The CNM white list seems to be working. It is helping breeders, stud owners and pup buyers make informed decisions. Further, there seems to be a prevalent common-sense attitude that if a dog is not on the white list, then the dog is being treated like a carrier. Let's keep the pressure on for the eventual testing agency to commit to public disclosure of test results.
 
GD you are exactly right! At this point in time the number of carriers of EIC from popular studs is HUGE (50% of litter) to say the least and then don't forget about the affected! One only has to look at the classified section here on RTF to see the names of studs and bitches know to throw the gene. The sad thing is you are right, almost all the owners have been aware of the problems with their animals and have continued to breed (all in the name of bettering the breed). Well, for may years after the field trailing world has their EIC free dogs, thousands upon thousands of EIC carriers and affect will continue to be breed by plain old folks.
 
Dogguy said:
One only has to look at the classified section here on RTF to see the names of studs and bitches know to throw the gene.
Where is this. You can PM me if need be.
 
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I have to admit........I am so over EIC. The test will be available shortly.

EIC and CNM are not considered problems in Australia. Mind you, EIC has been found in English lines (yes, I dug and dug and dug), where 95% of Australian lines originate, I am not so silly to think EIC in not in our lines. I was the first Australian who has tested for CNM , for my own interest.

Like CNM and PRA, with conscientious breeding programs using the DNA based tests, when breeders and buyers accept that we have other genetic health issues of polygenic concern ie hips/elbows.

When is a champion not a champion? ....when they cannot mark, remember, have poor attitude/drive/momentum OR a carrier for a simple recessive. I will take the carrier thanks.
 
EIC

Aussie said:
When is a champion not a champion? ....when they cannot mark, remember, have poor attitude/drive/momentum OR a carrier for a simple recessive. I will take the carrier thanks.
Huh? Too much "red"?

Ribbons and breeding just aren't the same thing...

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Once this research is peer reviewed, published, and set up for commercial testing, it will be a major advance in breeding better Labradors. Some of the dogs whose blood samples I sent to U of MN have since died and I'm glad they could contribute.
 
Aussie, if you are implying that some may feel a carrier less a champion, I can assure you I'm not one of them. But we need not put our heads in the sand when breeding or try to cover up potential problems. We need disclosure so that responsible decisions can be made relative to pup selection, breeding pairs etc.
 
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Re: EIC

Keith Stroyan said:
Aussie said:
When is a champion not a champion? ....when they cannot mark, remember, have poor attitude/drive/momentum OR a carrier for a simple recessive. I will take the carrier thanks.
Huh? Too much "red"?

Ribbons and breeding just aren't the same thing...

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Once this research is peer reviewed, published, and set up for commercial testing, it will be a major advance in breeding better Labradors. Some of the dogs whose blood samples I sent to U of MN have since died and I'm glad they could contribute.
Oh dear, I forgot to cut and paste an article. I apologise. BTW I do not like Jack Daniels.
 
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Granddaddy said:
Aussie, if you are implying that some may feel a carrier less a champion, I can assure you I'm not one of them. But we need not put our heads in the sand when breeding or try to cover up potential problems. We need disclosure so that responsible decisions can be made relative to pup selection, breeding pairs etc.
I agree.

As a hobby I try to keep up with the latest regarding the development of DNA based tests, involving labradors.

There are currently in the works, around the world, DNA based tests for epilepsy, retinal dysplasia and cataracts in their various forms. The lists goes on.

Yet another from a working point of view US/Australian/Japanese, DNA tests for working ability, as there is for sports people. My word!!!! .
 
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