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well shiver my timbers ! ...:)
You will have all them breeders shaking ;)
Not sure what this means, Scotland, please put it into American English if you can... and if you can I'll buy you a pint when I see you ladd
 
You guys talk about a figure 8 in training to stop barking. May I ask what you mean by that? I would like to know if it would help my dog.
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In order to help your dog you'll first need to educate yourself on the obedience boot camp process etc. Figure 8 heeling is just one part.
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As Breck mentioned the figure 8 is only one step in the ob boot camp. It is an 8-12 week program. It is taking Matt much longer with Stone because he has to travel quite a bit with his job and is raising a young family. Never-the-less Matt is making progress with Stone. Since you are retired maybe you can accomplish the program within the time guidelines. You will need a video cam to record your dogs progress and to communicate with Randy. If he will agree to help you remotely. You need to talk to Randy.
As stated earlier there is no easy fix. Sorry for the bad news. But you are at the point where you have to stop hunting, start Randy's program or just tolerate the noisy dog.
 
Not sure what this means, Scotland, please put it into American English if you can... and if you can I'll buy you a pint when I see you ladd
http://www.historyextra.com/qa/shiver-me-timbers

It may also come as a shock ,but I am a firm believer that 99.9% of all Noise issues are Human Induced. I also believe there is a noise (all levels) within them all (dogs) and it just requires the right trigger or circumstances to create it.

Blows the theory of it in the breeding out of the water? ....So if you breed two noisy dogs who have shown an issue of noise during a certain training phase ,You get noisy pups from them at the same stage?..:) :)
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I'll look forward to that pint Terry ;-)
Merry Christmas.
Robert
 
Merry Christmas to you Robert,

Noise is in them all, and therefore genetic? ;)

I agree that there must be a trigger to create noise amd some dogs have a lot of triggers and others don't? Perhaps the temperament type also encourages voice?

I would not buy a pup from two noisy parents. I think it is related more to drive/desire and lack of (natural) ability to remain calm in exciting moments. Any dog can be taught to be calm, but it is far better and easier IMO, to have the calmness/focus already present and part of the temperament of that dog.
 
Merry Christmas to you Robert,

Noise is in them all, and therefore genetic? ;)

I agree that there must be a trigger to create noise amd some dogs have a lot of triggers and others don't? Perhaps the temperament type also encourages voice?

I would not buy a pup from two noisy parents. I think it is related more to drive/desire and lack of (natural) ability to remain calm in exciting moments. Any dog can be taught to be calm, but it is far better and easier IMO, to have the calmness/focus already present and part of the temperament of that dog.
Tobias, I think maybe you mean it's nicer to have a dog that doesn't lose it's mind in exciting situations. There is a difference. A calm dog that is not excited by stuff that is supposed to be exciting, to me, is a dog that doesn't have a lot of desire. That intensity that we see in dogs, regardless of how it is expressed is an indication of training and marking potential. The trick is, can you have that intensity, with control. I think you can, and that is what my ideal dog is.
If a dog, is laid back online, chances are, it won't have the drive to get through a complete training program, and go the extra mile. Just my opinion.
I also believe that you are right as far as genetics go, and temperament, but I think good training can usually control those issues.
 
Update....Matt is at a sticking point right now because he needs a thrower everyday, so between work and daylight and help there won't be progress for awhile...Randy
 
http://www.historyextra.com/qa/shiver-me-timbers

It may also come as a shock ,but I am a firm believer that 99.9% of all Noise issues are Human Induced. I also believe there is a noise (all levels) within them all (dogs) and it just requires the right trigger or circumstances to create it.

Blows the theory of it in the breeding out of the water? ....So if you breed two noisy dogs who have shown an issue of noise during a certain training phase ,You get noisy pups from them at the same stage?..:) :)
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I'll look forward to that pint Terry ;-)
Merry Christmas.
Robert
Most of the times the dogs issues are human related. haha....Ive always been taught, a dog will only progress to your level of acceptability.
 
Just came across this thread in my search on here and AWESOME info!! Not done reading yet, but I have a dog with seemingly identical issues and personalities. Doing some marks from the boat last night and he was very vocal. Something I have noticing lately. Gonna stop throwing marks and concentrating on the OB drills in this post.
 
There is a discussion on a FB group going on about noisy dogs. I found this thread to be very interesting. Thought I would bring it back. Any conclusion to the dog in question?
 
There is a discussion on a FB group going on about noisy dogs. I found this thread to be very interesting. Thought I would bring it back. Any conclusion to the dog in question?
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The dogs owner hasn't posted for 2 1/2 years. The last being on this thread.
Many, when faced with a difficult problem to solve which takes much time and dedication simply give up.
Maybe Matt stuck to it and was ultimately successful, who knows.
 
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