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Mike Perry

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Reading Malcolm Gladwells book “Outliers”. It’s about what it takes to beat the odds, successful people and how or why they were successful. Professional athletes, business tycoons, etc. Some of his premise in the first 2 chapters is that a person has to be lucky by being in the right place at the right time sand having opportunities that may not be readily available to a lot of people.
He also places a great deal of importance on his theory of “10,000 hours”. He quotes studies that show that 10,000 hours of practice are required to achieve a high degree, world wide standard, of competence in ones chosen field of endeavor. I have attached a couple of paragraphs from chapter 2 that state this.
So with these retriever dogs we work with so diligently, we realistically don’t have opportunity for 10,000 hours of practice. 10,000 hours equates to 20 hours per week for 10 years or 40 hours per week for 5. Current training philosophies and practice tell us these numbers are not practical or realistic.



So how can one relate this type of philosophy to our training techniques or philosophy? More reps? More time training? Or does this not relate to us at all?
 
Practice is fine - as long as when you practice you are working toward improvement. I know there are people who 'practice' all the time, and hardly make any improvement at all in whatever 'skill' they are utilizing.

I think 'successful' professional retriever trainers have the best opportunity to see the '10,000 hr' rule become a realistic measuring stick to determine their proficiency and mastery of retriever training.
The average amateur might train only a dozen dogs in their lifetime. That is the same number as many pros have on their trucks at any given time. If not less. That said, a good amateur with a couple of dogs can give those dogs much more 'practice' as well... so, that can be beneficial as well.
 
we realistically don’t have opportunity for 10,000 hours of practice. 10,000 hours equates to 20 hours per week for 10 years or 40 hours per week for 5. Current training philosophies and practice tell us these numbers are not practical or realistic.

If you do the math... it comes out about right in dog years. If you're an amateur... and if your dog lives it's life in such a way that he's always learning the advantage of paying serious attention to you in details large and small, and if you're giving the dog an opportunity to learn it's craft with sufficient field work... they're about hitting their stride at a Malcolm Gladwell level of excellence at about 4 or 5.
 
You would still want to "get a handle" on the Canadian angle for doing retriever things.

Question: Are there certain ideas that you find yourself drawn to again and again? For example, you’ve used the threshold model of collective behavior to explain both school shootings and why basketball players don’t shoot free throws underhand.

Answer: I like ideas that absolve people of blame. That’s the most consistent theme in all of my work. I don’t like blaming people’s nature or behavior for things. I like blaming systems and structures and environments for things.
MG
 
Just because someone done something for 30 years doesn't make them an expert .
Just because someone done something for a few years and got results doesn't make them an expert or a greenhorn or even Lucky .
Just because someone has a retriever ,doesn't mean that it retrieves .
Just because someone like MG says it is So,doesn't mean that it is .
Canadians are funny folk Just because .
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Hope Aunt Jenny isn't on the board .
 
Canadians are funny folk Just because .
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Hope Aunt Jenny isn't on the board .
Hold on, is that Aunt Jenny from Medicine Hat? She'll probably want you talking to their Malcolm - Gladwell, not Malcolm the Remote Control Birdboy, also a Canadian by "birth" - about your observations at the Calgary Stampede, and speaking of "hold on," how many thousands of hours' training time it takes to master "8 seconds."

MG
 
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