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#23 ·
I don't beleive there has been 74 Nationals.

But, if there was, at 1 National per year, would that make him 89 years old?
 
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#29 ·
JKL said:
14 NFC's means there have been 14 NFC's come out of McKenna Kennels. Some trained at McKenna but Am handled to the win and others handled by Jim or his father Roy.
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some NAFCs included I think
 
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EdA said:
Replying to post by JKL
14 NFC's means there have been 14 NFC's come out of McKenna Kennels. Some trained at McKenna but Am handled to the win and others handled by Jim or his father Roy.

some NAFCs included I think
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Can't be, since Jimmy's license plate reads "14 NFCs", it doesn't say "NAFC". I should have paid more attention to the spare tire cover on his spare tire mounted on back of the dog box. It lists all the names of the 14 NFC winners.
 
#31 ·
zipmarc said:
Can't be, since Jimmy's license plate reads "14 NFCs", it doesn't say "NAFC". I should have paid more attention to the spare tire cover on his spare tire mounted on back of the dog box. It lists all the names of the 14 NFC winners.
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I certainly could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but from looking at the winners of The National Retriever Championship Roy won in '48 and '56, Jimmy in '05, Charlie Hill with Dandy in '75, that's 4, Dandy also won the Canadian twice, Sharmain and Garbo once each, I don't remember if Washington's Lucky Minerva was a Mckenna dog but I think she was and she won the Canadian twice, by my count still not 14 :confused:
 
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EdA said:
I certainly could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but from looking at the winners of The National Retriever Championship Roy won in '48 and '56, Jimmy in '05, Charlie Hill with Dandy in '75, that's 4, Dandy also won the Canadian twice, Sharmain and Garbo once each, I don't remember if Washington's Lucky Minerva was a Mckenna dog but I think she was and she won the Canadian twice, by my count still not 14 :confused:
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Minnie would be credited to Doug Orr. CNC Rip of Holly Hill by Roy & maybe 1 more CNC by Roy, NAFC Cody's R Dee, NC Risky Business Ruby, NAC Fishtrap Calamity - I believe he counts both NC & NAC - & Roy was a trainer of NC Springers (2) before he went into Labs - Don't know if they are counted. & John McMurtrie's dog won a CNFC.
 
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zipmarc said:
Jimmy Gonia's truck license plate reads " 14 NFC". And Patopea had at least one win. And where is Bill Sargenti? The stats do not seem complete?
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I think they are counting the dogs trained at the kennel. Jalva's Sweet Sharmain was handled by Mike Greene and it didn't say 14 Labrador NFC's. Roy trained springers. He could have won Springer trials.
 
#35 ·
January 15, 1940 Fresno Bee shows Gonia with Cockers or other spaniels.

 Trophies and field trial points at allowed ur.der the American Kennel Club function went to thi* group af cocker and ipringiny spaniel* which icon fop onor* in tlir trial* ttaged ythe Paci/ic Cocker Club near the San Joaquin River at the tnd of Van A'MJ Boulevard over the weekend. Shmi-n above, lejt to right, are: Ben Gladinrj with Agelaiux Ccdru*, winner of the cocker limit utakes; L. W, 'Miller of Oakland u-ith Jim Of Marxhfitld, winner of the non winner* *taka for fprinrjer*; Dr. J. E. Dodson of Son Francitco, with Nugget*, open all aye cocker champion, and Roy Gonia, profetainrjil handler from Washington, with Pendleton-.Judgr, owned by R. C. Bishop of Portland, Ore., th« limit upringrr utake* winner. In the lower picture t> Flush Of Klamath, owned by Mr. and .Urn. CoHi.i Johnson of Portland and handled by Gonia, which won the open all age stake* for tpringcr. xpaniels. Ret Phntos


Then this picture appeared in the 1949 Helena paper caption:

ROY GONIA and Rip of Holly Hill pewM for tfc* tfeotftgnaiM* faone of the few quiet moments Rip ha* ever had while out of hi*kennel. Rip is what 1* known a* a "high-roller" and to *> eager to retrieve he doem't vmot to sit still very long. His impnailve list of win* this year ha* already assured him a berth tn the National Retriever Trial* tbU winter.

Rip was the first Canadian National Winner.

Sorry the OCR software didn't read thhe pdf files very well.
 
#36 ·
Richard Halstead said:
I did this count in 2000 for the pedigree book "The Finalists". The active trainers numbers have increased in the past years since then. Unfortunately, the formatting didn't stay.


1941–2000 National Open Retriever Championship

Finished, Won ,Pro Trainer
30 ,4, Cotton Pershall
29, 6 ,Mike Lardy
21, 2 ,Danny Farmer
21,2 ,Billy Wunderlich
17, 1 ,Tom Sorenson
15, 0 ,Jerry Patopea
15, 1 ,Ray Staudinger
12, 0 ,J. J. Sweezy
11, 2 ,Joe Schomer
11, 2 ,D. L. Walters
11, 1 ,Bill Eckett
10, 0 ,Pat Burns
9, 3 ,Charles Morgan
8, 0 ,Jim Gonia
7, 1 ,,B. Dear
6, 2 ,Roy Gonia
6, 0 ,Ed Minnoggie
6, 3 ,Joe Riser
5, 0 ,Sana Carey
5, 1 ,Frank Hogan
5, 3 ,Tony Berger
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At the risk of pizzin Kristie off, keep in mind that three of Lardy's six wins came with ONE dog, "Lottie".

NO ONE comes close to Danny's record of the number of dogs qualified for the National.

Jerry
 
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At the risk of pizzin Kristie off, keep in mind that three of Lardy's six wins came with ONE dog, "Lottie".
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Seems to me that would make it even more special. She's the only 3 time winner and Lardy was her trainer. That's extra special in my book, extra special dog, extra special trainer.
 
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14 NFC's means there have been 14 NFC's come out of McKenna Kennels. Some trained at McKenna but Am handled to the win and others handled by Jim or his father Roy.
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From their EE AD:

What do all these dogs have in Common?

48 National Field Champion
50 Canadian National Field Champion
52 Canadian National Champion
56 National Field Champion
75 National Field Champion
76 National Amateuur Field Champion
76 & 77 Canadian National Field Champion
78 National Field Champion
80 National Field Champion
83 National Field Champion
84 Canadian National Champion
91 National Amateur Field Champion
94 Canadian National Champion
97 National Amateur Champion
2005 National Champion
2006 National Amateur Champion


McKenna Kennels: Programs for puppies through National Champions.

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#39 ·
Hey guys statistics are great but dont degrade to who is the greatest trainer. All of these folks are truly some of the best that have stood beside or trained a dog. All have had their moments in the sun. I am proud of the fact that I have been able to share the same field trial ground with a bunch the people you all have mentioned. Everyonce in a while(and not very often...lol) I have even taken a ribbon away from them. There are many great trainers that are not on that list and more to come. Enjoy your moments with them and treasure the memories.;)

LT
 
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Wyldfire said:
From their EE AD:

What do all these dogs have in Common?

48 National Field Champion
50 Canadian National Field Champion
52 Canadian National Champion
56 National Field Champion
75 National Field Champion
76 National Amateuur Field Champion
76 & 77 Canadian National Field Champion
78 National Field Champion
80 National Field Champion
83 National Field Champion
84 Canadian National Champion
91 National Amateur Field Champion
94 Canadian National Champion
97 National Amateur Champion
2005 National Champion
2006 National Amateur Champion


McKenna Kennels: Programs for puppies through National Champions.

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My math must be really bad. I count 17?
 
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