The Retriever Field Trial News has just issued a press release
http://www.working-retriever.com/rftentry.html
http://www.working-retriever.com/rftentry.html
Latest Salvo in the EE v RFTN Fight
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I'm thinking the swissy one and the shop keeping inventor who was lucky enough to feed Super Sue might be better publishers of News Worthy Field Events than Publishers of Field events are at running anything electronic, including can openers ... just my 2 cents ...going back into my winter nap .. yawn ...
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There is a lot being said about droppin suscriptions to RFTN. But what about the Clubs taht sign on with them. Do we enter those events? I think the way to put a quick end to it would be a boycott of those events.
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I think the way to put a quick end to it would be a boycott of those events
That sounds good to me - I think all the pros in Texas should boycotts these trials!
That sounds good to me - I think all the pros in Texas should boycotts these trials!
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nope, the best way would be to MAIL your entries to the FT Secretary for those events
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It was brought up in a club meeting last night that MVRC will use EE for 2008. The membership had voted that way and the board complied. The club members felt that EE did a good job and would likely continue in the future. They also felt RFTN entry was to new and would likely cause or have problems. A few members were contacted and pushed on a little to switch to RFTN as well.
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Me too, Ill be watching for the boycotts in TX this spring.
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Memorandum
To: All Retriever Field Trial & Hunting Test Club Presidents, Secretaries & Delegates.
From: AKC Performance Events Department
Subject: Entry Process & Premium Lists
Date: January 14, 2008
In an effort to make the entry process as simple and straightforward as possible for prospective entrants the following must be printed in the premium list.
- A club who has elected to use an on-line entry service must specify the name and web-link to the entry service in its premium list.
- A club or on-line entry service must take paper entries even when an on-line entry service is specified in the premium list.
- The premium list must specify the address where paper entries are to be mailed.
- There should be only one address shown for mail in entries.
- This address can be that of the entry service company.
- Any service fee imposed by the on-line service must be clearly stated in the premium list.
To: All Retriever Field Trial & Hunting Test Club Presidents, Secretaries & Delegates.
From: AKC Performance Events Department
Subject: Entry Process & Premium Lists
Date: January 14, 2008
In an effort to make the entry process as simple and straightforward as possible for prospective entrants the following must be printed in the premium list.
- A club who has elected to use an on-line entry service must specify the name and web-link to the entry service in its premium list.
- A club or on-line entry service must take paper entries even when an on-line entry service is specified in the premium list.
- The premium list must specify the address where paper entries are to be mailed.
- There should be only one address shown for mail in entries.
- This address can be that of the entry service company.
- Any service fee imposed by the on-line service must be clearly stated in the premium list.
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For all future field trials I will enter my dogs through Entry Express regardless of the entry service used or the field trial secretary, no need to go to the laborious exercise of entering dog data on another service when it is already entered at EE
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Same for me as I entered my dog yesterday through EE.net in a non-EE.net Field Trial.
The below from a support person at EE.net...
If you would like to register for non-EE events through our website, you can still do it online without worrying about a $3.50 fee. AKC has approved it for us to take online applications and mail them to RFTenty without anyone having to pay a fee. If you do not see the event that you are looking for on our website, please let us know and we will do our best to get it online for entry. I have attached an application if you would still prefer to mail it in.
Let me know if you need any further assistance.
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If I didn't give Shayne a little hell during the onset of this whole ordeal, I wouldn't be doing my job as the FTS for our club!
In fact, I give all our vendors at work a little hell, keeps them on their toes. I never want my business taken for granted. Not that Shayne would but, I always like to practice.
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That was for the Triple D/Q events ONLY.
Going forward, it looks like AKC's stance is for the entrant to be at the mercy of any and all fees and regulations imposed by any unregulated/unaccountable entry service.
In my opinion, if it is allowed that a subjective, sporatic, confusing, FEE charged to a certain demographic by an entry service and entrants are no longer protected/governed by the AKC rulebook, then there is no limit to the restrictions that can be imposed by the entry service. "Ed's Entries" can be the entry service for N. Texas Trial and his policy should be "Each entrant is only allowed up to 6 entries" OR after your 6th entry, it's $100 per entry processing fee. All roads, if this stands, lead to entry services deciding who gets to enter our events. And i guarantee there will be more "entry services" on the scene soon if this kind of power is available. Wow.
I'll post the EntryExpress policy on mailed entries.
SM
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Another fine decision by the AKC.
/Paul
/Paul
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The EntryExpress view on AKC Mailed Entries
Overview
We firmly believe that EVERY entrant is protected by the AKC Rulebook and Constitution when entering any event governed by the same. While the AKC Board of Directors have added a regulation allowing the use of electronic entry services, the RULES pertaining to discrimination, entries, and sportsmanship are clear in our eyes.
To our Club Customers
Though the rules may not apply to us directly, they do apply to you. It is the policy of EntryExpress to consider any and all AKC rules that could affect our AKC club customers. As the club’s contractually bound entry agent, it is our policy to not put our clubs at risk of liability as a result of our actions; discriminatory or otherwise. EntryExpress shall process all entries for our club customers; electronic or otherwise. EntryExpress will not charge a fee for any entries mailed to us for your club’s event. EntryExpress club customers are considerate of the wants and needs of the entrants. Our goal is to work as hard as possible to make certain your entrants are happy with your decision to be an EntryExpress club.
To our Entrant Customers
You are protected with us! The AKC Rulebook is very clear regarding discrimination and giving consideration to the number of entries you submit. AKC policy on entry agents (i.e. anyone entering a dog they do not own) is equally clear. EntryExpress entrants will never be at the mercy of an “entry service” setting entry restrictions or complicated and subjective fee structures.
While not every club chooses EntryExpress to print their catalogs, you can still enter any scheduled AKC Retriever Field Trial or Hunting Test using EntryExpress.net, we’ll gladly mail them for you. In some circumstances, the club may elect to use an entry service that penalizes you financially for not using their online entry system; EntryExpress will pay those penalty fees on your behalf when we mail in your entries. We are THAT committed to doing the right thing!
In drastic contrast to a recently published statistic, events using an online entry service averaged over 15 mailed entries per event over the last two years, 12,468 mailed entries to be exact. We welcome your mailed entry. Mailed entries have been free for over half of a century and EntryExpress is working for you to keep it that way.
Summary
EntryExpress is and always has been YOUR entry service. You ask; we deliver. It’s that simple. Our track record proves it.
Overview
We firmly believe that EVERY entrant is protected by the AKC Rulebook and Constitution when entering any event governed by the same. While the AKC Board of Directors have added a regulation allowing the use of electronic entry services, the RULES pertaining to discrimination, entries, and sportsmanship are clear in our eyes.
To our Club Customers
Though the rules may not apply to us directly, they do apply to you. It is the policy of EntryExpress to consider any and all AKC rules that could affect our AKC club customers. As the club’s contractually bound entry agent, it is our policy to not put our clubs at risk of liability as a result of our actions; discriminatory or otherwise. EntryExpress shall process all entries for our club customers; electronic or otherwise. EntryExpress will not charge a fee for any entries mailed to us for your club’s event. EntryExpress club customers are considerate of the wants and needs of the entrants. Our goal is to work as hard as possible to make certain your entrants are happy with your decision to be an EntryExpress club.
To our Entrant Customers
You are protected with us! The AKC Rulebook is very clear regarding discrimination and giving consideration to the number of entries you submit. AKC policy on entry agents (i.e. anyone entering a dog they do not own) is equally clear. EntryExpress entrants will never be at the mercy of an “entry service” setting entry restrictions or complicated and subjective fee structures.
While not every club chooses EntryExpress to print their catalogs, you can still enter any scheduled AKC Retriever Field Trial or Hunting Test using EntryExpress.net, we’ll gladly mail them for you. In some circumstances, the club may elect to use an entry service that penalizes you financially for not using their online entry system; EntryExpress will pay those penalty fees on your behalf when we mail in your entries. We are THAT committed to doing the right thing!
In drastic contrast to a recently published statistic, events using an online entry service averaged over 15 mailed entries per event over the last two years, 12,468 mailed entries to be exact. We welcome your mailed entry. Mailed entries have been free for over half of a century and EntryExpress is working for you to keep it that way.
Summary
EntryExpress is and always has been YOUR entry service. You ask; we deliver. It’s that simple. Our track record proves it.
1,554 events/185,100 entries strong… and growing!
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Forgive me if this question has been addressed or if it's something I should know. I haven't read every post on this topic in detail ... gave me a headache. But,
will the closing time/date be earlier in order to allow EE time to get the snail-mailed entries in on time? Or will they be accepted as long as they are submitted electronically by me to EE before the posted closing time?
JS
will the closing time/date be earlier in order to allow EE time to get the snail-mailed entries in on time? Or will they be accepted as long as they are submitted electronically by me to EE before the posted closing time?
JS
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