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Kris L. Christine

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Inflammatory bowel disease is one of the adverse side affects associated with vaccination, and for those of you whose dogs have chronic diarrhea that your veterinarian has been unable to diagnose the cause of, please read the information below.

From Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats, (Dr. Pitcairn is a DVM with a Ph.D. in veterinary immunology) Under "Vaccination: Replacing Acute Illness with Chronic Disease," p. 274-275: "While immunosuppressive states are not common in dogs, reports of their occurrence are on the rise. I believe the massive vaccination program for canine parvovirus, which began some thirty plus years after we began vaccinating cats with feline parvovirus (panleuokpenia virus), is creating this situation in dogs. .... we have been seeing inflammatory bowel disease in dogs over the past five to ten years. Prior to this it was virtually nonexistent. I am certain that vaccination for parvovirus and coronavirus is a major cause. I commonly see inflammatory bowel disease that arises within a month or two after vaccination for one of these
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If you click on this link http://www.angelfire.com/biz/froghollerfilas/VaccBlanco.html, you will be taken to an article by Dr. Dee Blanco entitled, Vaccines - Are They Safe for Your Dog? in which she states under the What Are the Adverse Reactions, If Any? that "Some of the illnesses you are familiar with include any auto-immune disease such as lupus, red cell aplasia, auto-immune hemolytic anemia cardiomyopathies; neoplasias such as fibrosarcomas, mast cell tumors, thyroid tumors, etc.; inflammatory bowel disease, eczematous ears, any dermatological condition, warts, lipomas, poor hair coats, stomatitis, periodontal disease, thyroid disease, and the list goes on and on. " are linked to vaccination.

Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) Dr. Kay McGuire DVM http://www.westieclubamerica.com/health/inflammatoryboweldisease.html " Lymphocytic-Plasmacytic Inflammatory Bowel Disease is the most common IBD and thought to be due to allergic reactions within the bowel and throughout the digestive tract. The wall of the large intestine is invaded by the individual’s own inflammatory cells in response to some triggering antigen. The antigen may be initiated by food hypersensitivity, insect stings, and even vaccines."

Immune-Mediated Intestinal Disease Dr. Edward J. Hall http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2007&PID=18136&O=Generic from the 2007 World Small Animal Veterinary Association's 32nd Congress

Excellent information on veterinary vaccines is available at the links below:

Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines http://www.wsava.org/SAC.htm Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm .

The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf .

Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/
 
Although Kris's posts have some truth in them, to listen completely to these spiels would scare anyone out of the vet's office. I want to point out that vaccines have saved more lives in animals (and humans) manyfold more than they have ever been harmed. I encourage careful consideration as to vaccine frequency and products but don't take the opinions stated as fact. Similarly, the press continues to distort the true incidence of medications (vaccines included) adverse reactions to the point that patients are gunshy to undergo treatment. A good example is the use of NSAIDS in dogs. The majority of drugs are safe in the majority of cases or they would not have been approved by the FDA! I'm sure that all on this forum already understood my points but in case their is any question talk to a trusted doctor about their opinions not the internet.
 
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The point of my posts is to give dog owners information on the scientifically proven long-term durations of immunity for the vaccines administered to their dogs and the adverse reactions associated with them. It is essential that dog owners make informed vaccine choices with their veterinary care provider -- the problem is that very few veterinary care providers afford their clients full disclosure on these matters.

Dog owners should realize that there are risks associated with vaccination and with not vaccinating -- they need to assess those risks for their particular animal, without access to the vaccine guidelines that veterinarians have, they don't have enough data to make appropriate choices. Pet owners who routinely vaccinate their dogs against distemper, hepatitis, and parvovirus every year or every three years after the initial puppyhood series are most likely wasting their money on unnecessary boosters and exposting their dogs to needless risk of adverse side affects at the same time.

It's impossible to know just how often dogs adversely react to vaccines because veterinarians are not required by law to report them, and according to the World Small Animal Veterinary Association's 2007 Vaccine Guidleines, "The VGG recognises that there is gross under-reporting of vaccine-associated adverse events which impedes knowledge of the ongoing safety of these products. The recently released World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines are available online at http://www.wsava.org/SAC.htm Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)
 
labdoc, I agree with you.

My biggest fear is that with the current "don't vaccinate" mindset going around, we are going to see an increase in diseases that have been kept in check due to vaccinating. Joe Q Public isn't like the majority of the members of this forum. They will take whatever they read and believe it is gospel rather than checking out all aspects of various studies. This also gives them the "excuse" not to vaccinate at all. :(

I got tired of getting these type of reports via email and asked to be removed from their mailing list.
 
I agree, my guess is it's very very rare that dogs have these extreme conditions due to vaccinations as opposed to the thousands and thousands of dogs who do not have reactions of any kind. Saying "It's impossible to know just how often dogs adversely react to vaccines because veterinarians are not required by law to report them, and according to the World Small Animal Veterinary Association's 2007 Vaccine Guidleines, "The VGG recognises that there is gross under-reporting of vaccine-associated adverse events which impedes knowledge of the ongoing safety of these products."
kind of reminds me of a headline in the newspaper where a reporter was investigating transfusion reactions to blood and writing over 20% of people transfused had transfusion reactions, sounding to John Q Public like they were receiving the incorrect blood type, when the reactions were itching and elevation of temperature reactions which are common to patients that are ill and required documentation as the blood is being administered. There are always going to be some reactions to any kind of medication but that's not a reason to stop vaccinations or medications that benefit the overall population. Imagine going to a dog event where dogs aren't vaccinated which would indeed be taking a very huge risk.
 
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My biggest fear is that with the current "don't vaccinate" mindset going around, we are going to see an increase in diseases that have been kept in check due to vaccinating. QUOTE]

I am certainly not in the "don't vaccinate" camp -- rather, I take a "don't overvaccinate" stance. If a dog owner isn't concerned about the potential adverse side affects from redundantly vaccinating their animal, I would assume that they might not want to spend money for something their animal doesn't need.

My own dogs are vaccinated against distemper, hepatitis, and parvo; and despite having suffered life-threatening bouts of seizures after his 1 year rabies booster, we chose to booster our yellow lab, Butter, when he was due for his 3 year booster (he did qualify for a medical exemption because of his condition), we boostered him because we felt that a titer of 1:28 was too low for comfort.

Not everyone on this forum is as informed as you three -- I've had numerous members contact me and request my canine vaccine data. Your dogs are fortunate to have owners who educate themselves -- my Meadow should have been so lucky.
 
What a great find. My sister has had three dogs in a row with severe IBD. The third is just a puppy 12 months old and she is very sick. My sister did the three Parvo combo shots and the Rabies. She followed all the rules but did not do extra vaccines like Lepto, Bordatella, etc. There is no other reason that this dog just suddenly is very ill with IBD. I do not believe in coincidences. I have had a poodle with Lymphoma who I healed naturally. I had another dog pass away at 8 years old due to cancer. I have a friend that has a dog with seizures.
 
You are correlating a rare event to an event that is not rare. It is easier to correlate a rare event to a rare event. If something other than a parvo shot was causing IBD you would expect it in clusters where that other something exists. That would assume that it is not coincidental or random. I would say there is more chance of it being non random. How many things are truely random? Truely random is a mathematical construct.
 
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