A friend's Chessie is starting to mouth the birds. Unfortunately their resources do not allow a trip back to the pro. What recommendations do you have?
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The dog went through a very complete FF program. I told the folks to go back to him as I've seen him fix a lot of problem dogs. I'm not sure they can afford what I think they should do.
I would definitely suggest that they at least call the pro who did the original work on the dog. If they can't afford to send the dog back, he could probably at least give them the best advice.
We bought a dog several years ago that was 2-1/2 years old. We ran her through Senior and she developed some mouth issues. Since we did not know the pro who had originally trained her, we took her to the pro we usually have force our youngsters. He fixed her mouth issues in less than a month and they never returned. He basically just went back through force fetching, starting on the table.
We bought a dog several years ago that was 2-1/2 years old. We ran her through Senior and she developed some mouth issues. Since we did not know the pro who had originally trained her, we took her to the pro we usually have force our youngsters. He fixed her mouth issues in less than a month and they never returned. He basically just went back through force fetching, starting on the table.
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As with most problems, many can be corrected by returning to basics, like force on a bench. You didn't say what kind of mouth problems the dog has; they are not all created equal. What is the dog doing? When you say "mouth the bird", is it just "loose mouth" or is the dog crushing the bird? Any problems on giving the bird up? Has he tried speeding up the return with the collar when the dog starts to munch?
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With the information you gave it is a little hard to say.... if the dog is away from you mouthing or eating birds then the speed up the return is good advice. If the mouth issue is at your side.........a firm sit with a lil pressure on the sit will often cause the dog to focus on the sit and then give the bird up easily.
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I think this presents an opportunity to remind folks that the foundation is always critical, but never ends. It must be maintained. A high standard of mouth habits must be required with certain dogs, we're often willing to overlook them in an effort to advance training. There are certain items that regardless of the days training goals must be dealt with and monitored constantly.
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Oddly the dog just got back into simple training with very little pressure. I will recommend they spend whatever time they can with their pro. Thanks all.
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/Paul said:
Two-steps forward, one step back - for a lifetime. Well worth it, in my experience.
This resonates with my limited experience. Some days, your plan to train a more complex behavior is pre-empted by a foundational behavior gone astray, and you just have to change the plan and get back to the foundation.
Two-steps forward, one step back - for a lifetime. Well worth it, in my experience.
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