This idea probably isn't new. How about $100 for AA stakes $90 for minor stakes. Adjust entry fees as needed to get to dog #'s you want over the years. Sounds cruel to me.
Reducing entry #'s
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Our break even is 90 dogs at $70. each. That was with a two stakes format, Open and Am. Now, we are going to four stakes so, I don't know what the actual breakeven number will be. I have a feeling that if clubs are loosing money it is because of the minor stakes.
We pay to fly in out-of-town judges for the majors, unless they would rather drive. This Spring we are flying them in from California and Florida. We take all judges out for a 5 star dinner, pay the bird throwers $80. per day, provide lunches for all workers and all the misc stuff like insurance, ammo, birds, equipment etc.
We are hoping no one in Texas conflicts with us this Spring, because if the minor stakes don't pull thier own financial weight...well;-)
We pay to fly in out-of-town judges for the majors, unless they would rather drive. This Spring we are flying them in from California and Florida. We take all judges out for a 5 star dinner, pay the bird throwers $80. per day, provide lunches for all workers and all the misc stuff like insurance, ammo, birds, equipment etc.
We are hoping no one in Texas conflicts with us this Spring, because if the minor stakes don't pull thier own financial weight...well;-)
150 dogs is the supposed break even point. I think I know a little about these clubs and their expenses. I also know that they have a way of spending other peoples money without any problem. The facts don't change. Birds, hired help, lunches, shells, motel rooms and judges eats don't run up to $10500. Unless your paying $100 a night for judges plus $100 day to feed them. The big judges party before the trial. etc.
You end up with nothing when you overspend. Pull in the purse strings.
Booty, you are the man. I have discussed this before with you. I'm like you, gotta watch what you spend. Some people just don't get it.
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Bingo
It is what it is which sometimes ain't a bad thing.
By the way, did crawfish season start?
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"By the way, did crawfish season start?"
It is here but we need some warm weather so they can get bigger.
Spring rain would also help us out a bit with quality and quantity.
Suckin Da Heads Regards
It is here but we need some warm weather so they can get bigger.
Spring rain would also help us out a bit with quality and quantity.
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$120/$40 sounds good to me. Thats an $80 per stake avg for amateurs running both the open and the am. Or charge $150/$60 and pay everyone that works $50 per day. That works out to be the same if you help out at the trial, but you'll have a helluva lot more help. Better order some fresh checks!
Either way, it takes heat off me for the service fee thing, so you go with your bad self Dr Ed!!!!
You could not offer a discount for multi-stake entry, since that discriminates against pros who are not eligible to enter the Amateur. The rulebook is pretty clear about that.
HOWEVER, apparently you CAN charge pros/agents an extra $3.50 per entry to mail in their entries... which the rulebook should also prevent from happening. So maybe you could get AKC approval.
Depends on who you know regards,
SM
Either way, it takes heat off me for the service fee thing, so you go with your bad self Dr Ed!!!!
You could not offer a discount for multi-stake entry, since that discriminates against pros who are not eligible to enter the Amateur. The rulebook is pretty clear about that.
HOWEVER, apparently you CAN charge pros/agents an extra $3.50 per entry to mail in their entries... which the rulebook should also prevent from happening. So maybe you could get AKC approval.
Depends on who you know regards,
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Interestingly enough, the AKC does NOT have North Texas posted on the event calendar, nor can you pull up the trial information on the search-for-event feature. Perhaps this is just a ploy to either test the waters in advance, or one to get everyone riled up. Okay, Ed, I was gullible!
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Any crawfish this spring will be more expensive than USDA Prime Beef! One of the local restauranteurs told me last week that with the saltwater intrusion from Hurricane Gustav, they aren't serving any fresh boiled dads. Maybe the crawfish farmers/industry can get a Federal Bailout for a couple of billion.
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How much effect is that going to have on overall entries? I suspect plenty.
If I ever drive that far for a trial, I know it will be to have an excuse to eat mudbugs!
If I ever drive that far for a trial, I know it will be to have an excuse to eat mudbugs!
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I dont think it will affect the rice field crawfish maybe some of the people closer to the coast. I dont think it will affect the basin bugs around Henderson but who knows.
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No excuses needed to dine on this delicacy. People go ape for the tasty little bugs but, I dump all the little crustations for gulf shrimp, 25 to a pound! ;-) Cajun Riviera would love a 160 dog - 4 stakes trial!
Brent, the local restaurants mostly get thier crawfish from the farmers in Vermillion Parish. I'm not sure exactly how much of the Atchafalaya crop goes to restaurants. I'm hearing that they are going for $4-$5 a pound live.
RLittle, I hope the fishing is getting better cause, I'm ready for some grilled Specs or Reds!
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I have a buddy that crawfishes in Ridge Duson area I will have to call him to see what he is getting for his crawfish. We have not had any yet this year so I am not sure. There is a resturant about a half mile from me where they are ok. I go there because it is close.
Well I see that this thread turned into a dry bologna sandwich.It seems that the North Texas RC along with Shayne was testing the waters on this new form of entry pricing. Apparently NTRC and EE pulled down the entries they had posted. We were all taken in by this, I feel so violated.
Gotcha regards.
Gotcha regards.
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Don't worry Barry, you coud be like Moosegooser and enjoy being "Violated".
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Hey... why you throwin me under the bus??? The clubs post their own stake information and can manipulate it until the event is finalized and open for entry! Based on my conversations with the great Dr Ed, if its not $150/$60... you can expect something similar.
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Maybe they are going to the 50,000.00 amount. 
It's all in fun. I love ya man.
Why did NTRC change the event info. It makes it look as though they were polling this site to see what way the wind was blowing.
Politically correct regards
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I need to give you more credit.
Hahahahahaha.......
where are those smilies on the side of my screen? Seriously?
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