Sending Off to Trainer - First Time

brwndg/yelladawg · Mar 23, 2009

I will be sending my girl off to a pro (first time for both of us) in three weeks. I was wondering if there were any tips you all could give me. She will be going primarily for FF. They are about 2 hours drive so I will be visiting often. How much is too much -every weekend or every other okay?
Thanks,
Tim

BonMallari · Mar 23, 2009

Get a second job or cash in the IRA...

Seriously communication with the pro without nagging or micro managing..offering to throw birds during training sessions...monitor your dogs progress or lack of it and document all communications. dont be afraid to make a change if you feel you and the dog are being short changed...You own the dog...the trainer works for you..

Clark · Mar 23, 2009

bonbonjovi said:
Get a second job or cash in the IRA...

HAHA..beat me to it Bon.

Edit: Except my trainer who is quite reasonable...(thought I'd throw that in there, you know, just in case she reads this..)

Jason Brion · Mar 23, 2009

Don't give him any training advise. If you don't think he's compitant you shouldn't take your dog there.

Don't bug him a lot. Remember if your trainer is answering the phone or always returning calls/emails, he/she probably isn't training much.

Don't go visit for at least a month. This will only slow the progression of your dog. Needs to get used to his new enviroment and don't need you around reminding him of those lazy days sitting on the couch eating doritos.

Pay promtly.

Listen. Ask a question. Listen some more.

Throw birds and watch the other dogs that arrived on the truck around the same time as yours. Watch those that have been around longer. This will give you an idea of what to expect and when.

Watch your trainer bringing all of the dogs to the line. The little things are very important. Notice how he brings each of them to the line. What is the same? What is different?

Throw your "waterdog", "smartworks", etc, etc books in the closet. Bring them back out if YOU ever want to train your dog again. Don't suggest that you send you dog on 2 whistles or run blinds to bushes at 6 months.

Enjoy the experience. If you approach it as a learning experience for you and your dog you can really get a lot out of it. I wouldn't trade the friendships and knowledge that I got for anything.

Throw more birds....

Karen McCullah · Mar 24, 2009

I agree that you shouldn't go out for a while....I'm the same distance from my pro, atleast 2 hours. I didn't go out for about 3 weeks, maybe 4 I don't remember. Gives the dog a chance to adjust.

I get out once a week to train there. I could go twice and they'd probably welcome me twice. They are great! But he's also farther along, mostly marks/blinds, transition work. I think forcing is quite different. I think when they're doing that, probably no visits until that nasty part is done.

Ask lots of questions but keep your eyes and ears open. And one pro who used to let me train with him even though I didn't have a dog on his truck (very generous ya know!) told me once that the best compliment is that you take their advice and USE IT!!! Don't ask questions, get an answer, then do your own thing or blow them off or come up with something "new and improved". (Probably won't work anyhow!)
It shows that you respect their training and that you're doing your homework. It's actually a favor to your dog and the best gift you can give him/her=consistency.

Good luck!

Fowl Play WA · Mar 24, 2009

If you've done your homework, trust him. Listen to him. Ask questions. Don't worry about your dog not remembering you; they ALWAYS do. I promise the first time you do go visit (the month out advice is good) your dog will be so excited to see you.

Rick_C · Mar 24, 2009

Along with the second job don't forget to order a box of checks...you'll need them!

Let the pro tell you when is appropriate to visit. But don't let it go longer than a month or so between visits so you can evaluate your dogs progress for yourself.

I agree that trust is the #1 thing. My pup has been in CA since the first of January and won't be back until the first week of May. My pro is very good about keeping me up to date with semi-regular calls and I trust him completely with my pup. Doesn't hurt that I spent all last spring/summer/fall training with him every weekend so we're on good terms.

Enjoy the ride!

Eddie Sullivan · Mar 24, 2009

Don't suprise your pro with a visit, call and make an appointment. Make sure visits are allowed during force fetch. Some pros don't want clients visiting during this time.
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Jason Brion · Mar 24, 2009

Eddie Sullivan said:
Don't suprise your pro with a visit

This is great advise! Good way to get your dog back early.

Don't pull your dog off the truck at a trial without asking first.

Don't bring your friends by after hours or on the weekends.

Don't brag about your dog to the other people in your camp. If they have been around awile they know what a good dog is...the don't need you to point it out.

And the guy who said that if you ask a question listen was right on. Listen and put the answer into action. No greater compliment or insult.

Franco · Mar 24, 2009

bonbonjovi said:
Get a second job or cash in the IRA...

I made a one-time investment to pay for my dog habit. I bought a townhouse for a rental unit. I collect enough rent to campaign one Pro trained dog including vet bills. Plus, I get the evaluation for the property if I sell it. ;-)

BonMallari · Mar 24, 2009

Mr Booty said:
I made a one-time investment to pay for my dog habit. I bought a townhouse for a rental unit. I collect enough rent to campaign one Pro trained dog including vet bills. Plus, I get the evaluation for the property if I sell it. ;-)

Smart move

, but do you claim your dog as a dependent, or write him/training expenses off as a loss

Franco · Mar 24, 2009

bonbonjovi said:
Smart move, but do you claim your dog as a dependent, or write him/training expenses off as a loss

I have two on Medicaid, one on SS and the other is in rehab.

TexasEd · Mar 24, 2009

As said before, don't go out for a while.

If your dog is going through FF and Collar conditioning you probably shouldn't visit until it is over.

Ask what the trainer thinks.

Cody Covey · Mar 24, 2009

Rick_C said:
Along with the second job don't forget to order a box of checks...you'll need them!

Let the pro tell you when is appropriate to visit. But don't let it go longer than a month or so between visits so you can evaluate your dogs progress for yourself.

I agree that trust is the #1 thing. My pup has been in CA since the first of January and won't be back until the first week of May. My pro is very good about keeping me up to date with semi-regular calls and I trust him completely with my pup. Doesn't hurt that I spent all last spring/summer/fall training with him every weekend so we're on good terms.

Enjoy the ride!

Is your pup with Skyhigh Rick?

Rick_C · Mar 24, 2009

eildydar said:
Is your pup with Skyhigh Rick?

Yes it is.

Do you have one with them? I don't recognize you from your screen name

Cody Covey · Mar 24, 2009

No this summer i think he will be making the trip. when he gets back. spoke with Mike about 2 weeks ago

Cody Covey

brwndg/yelladawg · Mar 25, 2009

Thank you all for the advice. I will take it very seriously & put it into action.

22 days to go

Are you sure she'll remember me? Just kidding.
Thanks again,
Tim

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