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#2 ·
I was looking for the same a few weeks ago, and posted here under boom tube.
Was told the folks making Etch Marc Thunder Max were working on a new and improved version soon to be released.

Certainly hope that is the case and it will happen soon.

If you find another source please post back.
 
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There are some major advantages to the shotgun simulators over a tradational shotgun. First is safety. Many clubs and trainng groups are concerned about the safety of discharging even blanks from a traditional shotgun. Second is cost. When shotgun blanks cost about $17 per box the ability to excite the dogs and get a realistic sound for 1 penny per shot is a great benefit. The sound can be heard for hundreds of yards. The third major benefit is the additional functionality of the shotgun simulator. The new machines being released by Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com will shoot in multiple succession and fire a single bumper. Think about it, one press of the button shoots 3 rapid fire succession shots to simulate a flyer station. Hooked up to a standard winger an individual training by themselves can mimick a flyer station with multiple shots. Nothing in the industry can do that.
 
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I attended a seminar where they used a shotgun simulator. It was loud and worked well. The gun looked like something from Men in Black, but did the job.

A pro training 20 dogs on marks 4 days per week, with an average of 3 shots per dog per marking day = 12 boxes of poppers per week at $8.00 per box which = $96 per week on poppers. The ROI is a couple of weeks, provided the shotgun simulator is reliable and does not require lots of repair or maintenance. An interesting option for a pro or very active club/training group.
 
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retrieverfever said:
Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com has released their latest version of a shotgun simulator / bumper thrower. Light years better than the old systems. It is being used at multiple winter seminars and training by pros such as Mike Lardy, Danny Farmer, Dave Rorem and Bill Schrader. These are worth a look..
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I pre orderd two of them supposed to ship in Feb.
 
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The previous propane banger or Bango or whatever it was called, worked very intermitantly. How is this one once it gets a couple years old?
 
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retrieverfever said:
There are some major advantages to the shotgun simulators over a tradational shotgun. First is safety. Many clubs and trainng groups are concerned about the safety of discharging even blanks from a traditional shotgun. Second is cost. When shotgun blanks cost about $17 per box the ability to excite the dogs and get a realistic sound for 1 penny per shot is a great benefit. The sound can be heard for hundreds of yards. The third major benefit is the additional functionality of the shotgun simulator. The new machines being released by Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com will shoot in multiple succession and fire a single bumper. Think about it, one press of the button shoots 3 rapid fire succession shots to simulate a flyer station. Hooked up to a standard winger an individual training by themselves can mimick a flyer station with multiple shots. Nothing in the industry can do that.
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Correct. The simulator that is coming out is due out in Febuary from Thunder Equipment. One can of fuel is suppose to be the equivalent of $300 in poppers. I haven't got to see one yet but I don't think it hooks to electronics as a winger does. It is manually operated. It does shoot a bumper though. Or just use it for the sound. I know Doug has put alot of time into this with testing and working on sound to get it just like a shotgun blast. It should offer huge savings for those that use alot of poppers and is way safer. Thunder Equipment has a video up now that shows it being shot at a piece of cardboard and a popper load at a piece of cardboard at point blank range. The simulator-- no hole after many shots. The popper--- big hole one shot. Definately safer.
Joe
 
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Bill Schrader has been field testing the new simulator for Doug Wilson. I have operated it on several occasions. It is very easy to operate and reliable. Only one moving part so durablity should be good. Cost per pop is around a penny. It is very light, protable and extremely safe. You partially depress the one and only button to load for one to three seconds then complete the depression of the button to fire. So simple even an Aggie can operate it.
Mike
Class of '86
 
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MikeBoley said:
Bill Schrader has been field testing the new simulator for Doug Wilson. I have operated it on several occasions. It is very easy to operate and reliable. Only one moving part so durablity should be good. Cost per pop is around a penny. It is very light, protable and extremely safe. You partially depress the one and only button to load for one to three seconds then complete the depression of the button to fire. So simple even an Aggie can operate it.
Mike
Class of '86
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is there any kick to it ?
 
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