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#41 ·
Except, if the owners wanted to put any effort into it, they would have done so before now,and would not be looking for an easy way out.
I rescue some-but dont get in over my head.
Kristie, follow your gut, and do what you are comfortable with.
THe problem is some of our hearts are way too big! :)
 
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#42 ·
I too have a big heart. I have taken on a couple of dogs and have found good homes for them. It's me. As far as everyone else??????????
They is what they is!!;)
The economy sucks and people are making all kinds of decisions these days.
Hopefully it will turn around soon. I know I've had to make sacrifices lately.
Sue
 
#44 ·
I make a distinction between those on hard times that have to move, those that have illnesses, the dogs have conditions, or they have definite circumstances where they can't keep a dog but want to find a home for them, and those that just want to dump dogs they don't want anymore because they might be too much trouble, but they won't even take the responsibility to take the dog to a rescue. The dog is running at large. Most townships don't allow it. Everyone else has to keep their dogs under control but they don't want to bother to bring the dog in a house, in a garage, build a kennel, or build a fence. It's called responsibility. What probably happened is they got fined.
 
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#45 ·
Vicky Trainor said:
Why wouldn't a member of RTF ask? We (meaning the members of RTF) are like an internet family/friends. Why do some always have to look at things negatively and make nasty comments. I guess that is part of being in a "family/friend" situation. :(

I would hope that RTF never becomes a place where all of us are afraid to post due to negative comments.
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With all due respect, asking is one thing being rhetorical is quite another. Kristie obviously wasn't really looking for a reason to say no. She had obviously decided to do the noble thing and provide an out for some irresponsible individual or individuals that apparently can't or won't do the right thing, that's cool. What is not so cool is to label some of us that feel that we don't need to save the world as cold hearted, uncaring or somehow not as altruistic as she is.
 
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#46 ·
Kristie,
I used to take in fosters here--- the death row ones from the HS locally. Many, unfortunately, had some temperament or health issues but not all (some could be overcome!). Once my numbers got to the point that I could no longer do fosters, I found other ways to help. I am chair of my all breed club rescue committee, and on the LRC Rescue Task Force now. I also have a life long return policy for every puppy I produce here so I take that seriously.

My all breed club rescue committee funded a microchip scanner and chip kit to one rescue, $1000 toward spay/neuter for our local SNAP program this year, annual educational ads in the newspaper, etc.. I have chosen to encourage the educational/prevention route as otherwise I felt we were getting nowhere w/ one foster at a time. :( I have also personally donated vaccines and other help when needed. I think sometimes we just need to decide what we safely CAN do. It's just so sad that not everyone is on the same plain as us. If every breeder at least took responsibility for the pups they produce, we'd not have this situation. Anne
 
#47 ·
Kristie Wilder said:
LOL, it's interesting to be mocked when you're trying to do right by a dog. Same old same... Glad you guys are cold-hearted, must make your lives really easy when you're only concerned with yourselves.
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Hold on there Madam. I was not mocking you... That is known as affectionate ribbing.

Please accept my humble apologies.
 
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Leddyman said:
Hold on there Madam. I was not mocking you... That is known as affectionate ribbing.

Please accept my humble apologies.
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It wasn't you... ;) She'll be arriving some time around next Wednesday with all her gear. We'll see how it goes.

I haven't put as much time and effort as I probably need to into helping place the rescues I work with. I need to get a move on... :)

-K
 
#49 ·
I suppose I'll never understand how folks like this can give up their dog. Build a run, keep the dog tied up, try something... Why the hell did these people ever get a dog in the first place?

The smarta$$ jerk in me would ask them for $50 when they drop her off. When they ask what for, I'd say its for food; but go on to say: "..unless of course it just doesn't work out, then it would cover the euthansia".

Watch the reaction to see if they have a heart...
 
#50 ·
Kristie Wilder said:
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It wasn't you... ;) She'll be arriving some time around next Wednesday with all her gear. We'll see how it goes.

I haven't put as much time and effort as I probably need to into helping place the rescues I work with. I need to get a move on... :)

-K
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Good for you Kristie

One note of caution, make sure your rescues aren't carrying something contagious. We have friends who fostered a rescue that had brucellosis and transmitted the disease to their other dogs.

There is no cure for brucellosis. As a result a breeding program they had spent many years to develop was destroyed.
 
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jeff t. said:
Good for you Kristie

One note of caution, make sure your rescues aren't carrying something contagious. We have friends who fostered a rescue that had brucellosis and transmitted the disease to their other dogs.

There is no cure for brucellosis. As a result a breeding program they had spent many years to develop was destroyed.
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Agree, which is why I quit fostering, couldn't take the risk anymore of something awful coming in to my dogs, it would be too devastating. However, there are many ways people can help without having to foster, just cutting a check to the local shelter can go a long way and avoid the frustration of dealing with the mentality of people who consider their pets part of the "disposable" economy we have. Volunteering in other ways if one can stomach it. There are those of us who feel it should be about the personal accountability of the people dumping their dogs/cats or not taking care of them, despite the resources we offer, free spay/neuter, including transport, vaccination clinics, emergency medical funds, temporary housing if dislocated, etc. Our governing board continually makes the point that it is about the animals, we can't make the owners feel bad or guilty or we don't get the animals, they get dumped or worse, and forget trying to modify human behaviour, this is now a society of no accountability and bailout. So, we continue to raise huge amounts of money by expending tons of time and energy on fundraisers so we can supply the local food shelters with cat and dog food, provide education, shelter & medical care and continue the other programs to try and reduce the number of litters/unwanted animals. It makes me want to walk away from the humane society sometimes, people are so stupid, lazy, callous, whatever. Then there are those who question how I can breed knowing about the thousands of unwanted homeless dogs out there. My response, I do the very best I can with my own, damned if I'm going to let the losers in the world dictate whether I should do something that gives me a great deal of pleasure and satisfaction just because they don't take accountability for their own actions.

Some pets are saved, many will not be and I don't think anyone who is doing the best job they can with their own lives/pets need feel responsible or guilty for the bad owners. But, may the ones doing the dumping meet their maker with that on their record and I hope whatever god they worship loves dogs.
 
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jeff t. said:
Good for you Kristie

One note of caution, make sure your rescues aren't carrying something contagious. We have friends who fostered a rescue that had brucellosis and transmitted the disease to their other dogs.

There is no cure for brucellosis. As a result a breeding program they had spent many years to develop was destroyed.
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That's a very good point. I had not considered brucellosis. Isn't it only transmitted sexually, though? Or can it be transmitted by other forms of contact? Apparently other ways as a result of your friend's experience....

Thanks for the great advice. I'll research how it's transmitted...

-K
 
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Kristie Wilder said:
That's a very good point. I had not considered brucellosis. Isn't it only transmitted sexually, though? Or can it be transmitted by other forms of contact? Apparently other ways as a result of your friend's experience....

Thanks for the great advice. I'll research how it's transmitted...

-K
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From http://agr.georgia.gov/vgn/images/p...s/portal/cit_1210/43/31/60503769Canine Brucellosis Kennel and Owner 6-13-06.pdf

How do dogs get infected with Brucella?

B. canis is a sexually transmitted disease in dogs. Dogs become infected through exposure to secretions during mating or by contact with infected tissues during birth or following abortion. In addition, dogs may spread bacteria in urine, saliva, nasal and ocular secretions, and feces. Infection with B. suis can occur in dogs in contact with feral hogs (e.g. hunting dogs) following exposure to blood, urine, saliva or other tissues. Exposure to B. abortus may occur if dogs have contact with aborted tissues of infected cattle or bison. However, most domestic cattle herds in the U.S. (including those in Georgia) are now free of brucellosis making this route of exposure very unlikely. Brucellosis is still present in cattle in Texas, Wyoming, and Idaho

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#56 ·
Kristie Wilder said:
whatever, Kathryn. I asked "what would YOU do". I didn't ask to be mocked because I felt badly for the dog and want to try to help it. Spare me... The thread title was rhetorical. I know how to say "no". I say it on plenty of things, but I have a harder time saying it when dealing with an unwanted animal. I don't think there's anything wrong with that... Some of us are just a little softer than others on some things. And, yes, I understand it's not my responsibility to save the world.

-K
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So what's the problem??? I thought there was a problem or a conflict from your post...

Take the dog and place it...

Why the drama????

Angie
 
#60 ·
Sometimes you just have to vent to someone you know not really to get their advise but to see how it sound on paper. People call trainers, breeders, or anyone with more that 3 dogs to see if you'll take a problem off their hands. There are so many reasons. We had a fellow ask to take his beautiful male black lab that was 2 because he just wouldn't stay home and his son was not intertested in taking care of hime. We took him put some time into training and sold him to a big hunting rand. He is now the pick of the litter and all rave over hime. He stays home now. What if he had to be put down because he went to the animal shelter because he wouldn't stay home and no one would take a chance on him. Sad. You have to make that decision when someone calls to take their dog. Sometimes you get a jewel sometimes not but why are the trainers the one that have to make that decision. It's space, cost, time, into taking a dog into your kennel. My hats off to those who accept even a few of these guys and no judgement when you just can not take in one more dog. That is why I am a big advocate of the little training classes they have at the rec office--could mean that that the family would be able to deal with the pet they are now asking you to take off their hands. I used to hate the puppy stage..now it's my favorite. You just have to know to to deal with that stage. Good luck Kristie with the new dog.,,,I am sure she'll find a good home because of you.
 
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