i ran my first master test this week and while i went out in the secound round she broke. but my score in the first round was 9 in trainability(sp) what is it defined as thanks.
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pat addis
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Without getting my rule book out, so I might miss some points, trainability is a measure of what the dog is "trained" on. Obedience ie walking at heel, sitting on command, quiet at line, sitting on whistle, taking casts in a timely manner, etc. With a 9 in the first series, it did pretty good. If you had to blow the whistle more than once for the dog to stop, had to give a cast multiple times, etc, your score would be lower. Breaking in Master is a 0 in trainability, if you have a 0 in any part in any series, you cannot get a pass. Repeated, loud, excessive barking can lead to a 0 in trainability as well.
You can view the rule book online, go to www.akc.org and do a search for retriever hunt test rules. If I was on the computer, I'd look it up and post the link.
Good luck
You can view the rule book online, go to www.akc.org and do a search for retriever hunt test rules. If I was on the computer, I'd look it up and post the link.
Good luck
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I'm not being rude, but I wasn't sure I understood your question-truly! If what you are asking is if that 9 for trainability is a good thing-yes-it's wonderful! You can be given any score from a 0 to 10 and need an average score between the 2 judges in each category to pass.
Besides overall performance-dogs are scored on marking (primary importance), style, courage/perseverance and trainability.
Did you see your other scores & how the judges diagramed your marks and blinds? Also watch the other dogs work.
At one point-as much as the ribbon & scores from the judges matter-you'll get to where you KNOW you've aced the test or know what you need to work on before the next one. Be objective. There's always (this used to be me) someone who thinks that because they picked up all the chickens-they must be getting a ribbon. At the end of it all-the dog has to have shown that he gave a Master performance overall.
*** As was said-that break gave you a 0 trainability and you're headed home (been there done that). Get that under control (no pun intended) & if your dog is marking & running blinds reliably at Master level-it's just a matter of time before the MH, but do read the rules. You'd hate to put your dog out on something you weren't aware of.
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assuming it was the "standard" 1st series...
the dog:
1-control exiting the holding blind and approaching the line
2-sitting promptly on the first command given by the handler to the dog to sit where the judges direct.
3-quietly watching the marks as they are thrown, shot and as they fall, without movement other than to actually watch them.
4-waiting for the handler to send them.
5-prompt pick up once the bird(s) are found
6-gentle delivery of the bird to the handler
7-following cues by the handler prior to be sent for subsequent marks.
8-blind retrieve(s) in their entirety, from lining up to delivery of the bird.
9-honor in its entirety, if there is one
10-exiting the test after completion, until on lead, behind the judges
the handler:
in general, a non-disruptive method of working with the dog which would not disturb the hunt.
-not loud
-as few commands as possible to get the work done; pleasing to the eye and ear.
-a minimum of repetition of commands. for example; sit,Sit,SIT! is not desirable.
the judges are looking for a finished performance, not a work in progress!
good luck in the future!-Paul
the dog:
1-control exiting the holding blind and approaching the line
2-sitting promptly on the first command given by the handler to the dog to sit where the judges direct.
3-quietly watching the marks as they are thrown, shot and as they fall, without movement other than to actually watch them.
4-waiting for the handler to send them.
5-prompt pick up once the bird(s) are found
6-gentle delivery of the bird to the handler
7-following cues by the handler prior to be sent for subsequent marks.
8-blind retrieve(s) in their entirety, from lining up to delivery of the bird.
9-honor in its entirety, if there is one
10-exiting the test after completion, until on lead, behind the judges
the handler:
in general, a non-disruptive method of working with the dog which would not disturb the hunt.
-not loud
-as few commands as possible to get the work done; pleasing to the eye and ear.
-a minimum of repetition of commands. for example; sit,Sit,SIT! is not desirable.
the judges are looking for a finished performance, not a work in progress!
good luck in the future!-Paul
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Print Paul's post (& read the rule book!) & train with his thoughts in mind & you'll have a "true" Master dog. And if you ever have the chance to run under him-do! Nobody sets up a better test and judges more fairly than Paul.
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The four traits that make up Trainability are steadiness, control, response, and delivery. Paul's post covers the bases very well.
As has been pointed out, score averages can keep you from getting a ribbon. In your case, a break in Master (whether or not is was controlled doesn't matter....) is a SERIOUS fault, requiring elimination. How well your dog did up to that point becomes moot....which is what makes a BREAK hurt all the more.
I'd rather have a dog that will break than one that has to be made to go. The proper correction in training will fix that problem. It won't, however, fix your nerves at a test in anticipation of the dog breaking or not breaking! ;-)
Have fun regards,
kg
As has been pointed out, score averages can keep you from getting a ribbon. In your case, a break in Master (whether or not is was controlled doesn't matter....) is a SERIOUS fault, requiring elimination. How well your dog did up to that point becomes moot....which is what makes a BREAK hurt all the more.
I'd rather have a dog that will break than one that has to be made to go. The proper correction in training will fix that problem. It won't, however, fix your nerves at a test in anticipation of the dog breaking or not breaking! ;-)
Have fun regards,
kg
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