I am thinking about getting my O/U ported. Most companies I have read about are close in price, ~$150. Anyone have experience with this? Any noticable difference in recoil? As of now I am leaning towards Briley (or selling the gun).
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I am thinking about getting my O/U ported. Most companies I have read about are close in price, ~$150. Anyone have experience with this? Any noticable difference in recoil? As of now I am leaning towards Briley (or selling the gun).
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Save your money and have the over/under back bored instead. porting a shotgun will give you minimal results on muzzle jump, almost no negligible recoil reduction, and make your gun very loud and unwelcome at the skeet range..you could try extended ported chokes and get the same effect...I will admit the only people I would consider doing the porting job would be Briley..If it was a Beretta auto I would say Angleport..
If you are looking for reduced felt recoil look into a better recoil pad such as a Kick-Eez (I just had one put on my wife's 1100 and it is nice). We shot 400 shells a piece this weekend and she is doing fine this morning. It does make a difference and is worth the $40 for the pad and $25 to have a gunsmith put it on if you are not going to do it yourself.
I am sure you will get comments either way regarding the effectivness of porting, however I have that and lenthened forcing cones on my 12 ga Skeet gun and the felt recoil is less on my 1100 than my wife's who hasn't had her gun ported yet (unscientifically tested by me this weekend shooting the same loads). I do not have it on my o/u for the simple reason that I have tubes for the gun and the porting is ineffective with tubes unless you have the tubes ported also.
Added weight also helps felt recoil. You can get weights that attach to the bottom barrel for an o/u.
I am sure you will get comments either way regarding the effectivness of porting, however I have that and lenthened forcing cones on my 12 ga Skeet gun and the felt recoil is less on my 1100 than my wife's who hasn't had her gun ported yet (unscientifically tested by me this weekend shooting the same loads). I do not have it on my o/u for the simple reason that I have tubes for the gun and the porting is ineffective with tubes unless you have the tubes ported also.
Added weight also helps felt recoil. You can get weights that attach to the bottom barrel for an o/u.
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and that's an understatement....;-)
Briley will also make extended ported choke tubes if they do not have ones for your shotgun
http://www.briley.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=130
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·If you are shooting a #12 or bigger, there isn't much you can do about recoil through porting. 3 oz. or so of shot going from 0-1400 fps is going to wallop you a bit regardless of whether or not the expanding gas is vented at the end of the tube.
I've shot a "Strangler" in my 870 for a number of years. If there is a difference in felt recoil, it's insignificant as far as I can tell.
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Backboring will work wonders.
Personally I would have Magnaport do the work on the porting. Briley is fine as well and has done some great work for us in the past, but the grandaddy is still Magnaport. Here is the price list: http://www.magnaport.com/misc.html
What, I can't hear you WHAT??????? I had a duck gun that was ported and my friends now hate me and I am half deaf, I supose it wouldn't matter if you were shooting at the range with muffs. I now detest porting on any gun that may be used hunting, which is almost all of them. I also avoid all ported chokes.
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Personally I'm not impressed by them... Alot of guys I shoot skeet with have ported barrels or chokes. My understanding is that they have small impact on felt recoil (I'm coming clean I don't own a ported gun but am reasonably certain I have shot them, and I never went "Oh wow why does this have so little kick?"). What I do know is that it feels like you are standing next to a howitzer when one goes off there a significantly louder BOOM and you can feel it in your chest. One time I had to leave a rifle range because a guy was sighting in a .300 mag, I was about 30 ft away with my .22 and I even put my back pack on the bench as blast barrier and I was wearing hearing protection. Every shot felt like a bucket of water was being thrown on me (the force not the wetness). I'm not sure the guy was being rude he certainly had the right to be there. Anotehr issue is that they are supposed to be a b**** to clean with all of the carbon crap grabbing nooks and crannies. A real plus I could think of is that they are intimidating, they look kind of cool and the blast could help distract other shooters in a copmpetitive target shooting squad, although thats a bit underhanded. I think that most benefits are a simple placebo effect, not that that isn't good.
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I don't know if it's still the case but a few years ago there was one shotgun game, International trap I think. No ported guns allowed.
That's not a very common game but it would be disapointing if you got interested in it and had an expensive ported gun.
John Lash
That's not a very common game but it would be disapointing if you got interested in it and had an expensive ported gun.
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I have a Benelli Cordoba that has 28" ported barrel. Barrel porting isn't the same as ported chokes when it comes to muzzle flip. ported chokes are ported all around and ported barrels just on top. The porting on top of the barrels aims the discharge upwards and theoretically it pushes the muzzle back down. Ported chokes don't direct discharge upward. With that said, I think it works to an extent.
A shooting buddy of mine has a Benelli M2 with 26" non ported barrel. Same action, same recoil pad etc. Only real differences are the barrel length and the porting. His 26" barrel with internal screw in chokes and my 28" barrel with extended chokes (essentially making it 29"). Side by side there is definitely a difference between the two with both muzzle flip and recoil. Noticable difference. It's obvious when we shoot side by side. We have exchanged guns to see if it was shooter or gun. It was the gun. My Cordoba is significantly faster to get to the second shot, much less flip and somewhat less recoil. Now whether that is due to the porting or the barrel length, I don't know. I think it's a combination of both, but likely more so the length. You can see the gasses coming out of the top of the porting, which makes me think it is responsible for at least some of the difference.
As for loud. I've heard some guns with ported barrels that were loud, but for some reason, and I have no idea why, my Cordoba isn't much louder at all. Seriously, not at all. It sounds a little different, but not louder. I've never heard one comment from anyone about it being loud and I've let others shoot it just so I could listen to it. Might be a problem on others, but not mine.
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A shooting buddy of mine has a Benelli M2 with 26" non ported barrel. Same action, same recoil pad etc. Only real differences are the barrel length and the porting. His 26" barrel with internal screw in chokes and my 28" barrel with extended chokes (essentially making it 29"). Side by side there is definitely a difference between the two with both muzzle flip and recoil. Noticable difference. It's obvious when we shoot side by side. We have exchanged guns to see if it was shooter or gun. It was the gun. My Cordoba is significantly faster to get to the second shot, much less flip and somewhat less recoil. Now whether that is due to the porting or the barrel length, I don't know. I think it's a combination of both, but likely more so the length. You can see the gasses coming out of the top of the porting, which makes me think it is responsible for at least some of the difference.
As for loud. I've heard some guns with ported barrels that were loud, but for some reason, and I have no idea why, my Cordoba isn't much louder at all. Seriously, not at all. It sounds a little different, but not louder. I've never heard one comment from anyone about it being loud and I've let others shoot it just so I could listen to it. Might be a problem on others, but not mine.
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After a few discussions last night, I confirmed that porting will not do much for felt recoil. It is specifically designed for muzzle jump. If you still want that route go with the Magnaport. I spoke to an "expert" who is obsessed with shotguns and the science of them had his done by Magnaport. As far as recoil goes; backbore, Kick-Eez recoil pad, and weight are your answers.
Another point of interest is if your gun has interia triggers. If you do too much and shoot light loads the second barrell will not fire. Read the disclaimers on the side of some field blanks the tell you that they will not repeat in semi-autos and guns with intertia triggers.
Another point of interest is if your gun has interia triggers. If you do too much and shoot light loads the second barrell will not fire. Read the disclaimers on the side of some field blanks the tell you that they will not repeat in semi-autos and guns with intertia triggers.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I guess I will put the money into a new pad and forcing cone work. The back boring will have to wait due to price; that additional $300 is already earmarked for a new Nova/paddle for duck season.
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