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how many pups from your AI breeding

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Juli H

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Discussion starter · #1 · (Edited)
hopefully will be getting a pup from a surgical AI breeding to take in the next month or so....:)

the many stories of such breedings has me wondering what the normal success ratio is, for surgical AI's.

I do realize that there are many factors involved...semen quality, age of bitch, etc etc....

I am mostly just curious as to what a typical litter size is...(if there is such a thing! LOL)

multiple votes allowed...I realize the poll will not allow for all 'scenarios'....such as if you've had more than one surgical AI that resulted in no puppies....if you feel like noting that in a post, please do so.

also, would like to keep the info limited to surgical AI's.

thanks!
Juli
 
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One frozen AI TCI litter (that's trans cervical implantation; less invasive) for a variety of reasons the TCI was done a day or two later than when the vet thought was the right timing: 4 pups. One frozen AI breeding where the vet did both surgical + TCI implantation: 9 pups out of the same bitch, who was 8 at the time. So I didn't check a box.... both were frozen AI breedings, but the second was 2 procedures done 24 hrs. apart, surgical first.
 
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Two surgical AI frozen semen breedings, 3 and 5 pups.
 
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Three frozen AI's with three different females and three different males. Two litters of 10 and one litter with none. In the two successful litters, motility was 50% and 80%. In the litter with no pups (five straws instead of three), motility was 30%. That female had one litter previously with seven pups, and two litters since with 10 and 12. Moral of the story: more straws don't necessarily make up for sperm that can't swim. My general assumption is that the female primarily determines the number of pups in the litter assuming that the male meets basic standards for fertility. If fertility is marginal the likelihood of no pups goes up dramatically.
 
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2 surgical implants with frozen semen... 4 and 2 and I used the best repo vets in my area...

Timing is so crucial.

If it works it works well. When it doesn't it really doesn't.

I'll do it again. I just wasn't lucky either time...

Angie
 
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hey you all... it is a mulitple choice poll...if you got zero, pls include that option in your vote. :)

Juli
 
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Last 12 years ALL pups born at Gator Point Kennel were frozen semen/surgical implant.
2 litters 0 pups
63 (sixty three) litters from 3 pups to 13 pups If we had deposits on mostly females we got mostly males and vice verse.

Dr. Greene and Associates at Folsom, LA did the timing, sent a sample to Cornell for an RIA test and did the surgery with great success. We owe them for a whole lot of pups due to their dedication. They have done surgery on 4th of July and on Christmas Eve (without extra charge) and even let me stand by and watch (as long as I touched nothing).THEY ARE GOOD!!! Timing is so important.

This has caused less stress on the male (he wasn't even there) less stress on the bitch (no rambunctious male romping all over her) and LESS STRESS ON ME. I used to get so tired of sitting in a chair, holding the females head and with my right foot trying to keep the female elevated and her butt off the floor. I know they can get the job done by themselves, but they can be like teen agers too.

I'm all for frozen semen, surgical implant and yes, we've been very lucky and once again, thank you again Dr. Gary Greene and staff.
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9, 9, 8


Equal results with fresh chilled.... only one miss on fresh chilled with one of my males.... but bitch had missed before.
 
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All my litters in the past 4-5 years have been frozen surgical AIs with a 100% conception rate and 7-10 pups. My vet maintains a conception rate of around 94% for his whole practice and, needless to say, I recommend him highly.
 
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I think it's the only way I would ever breed... We have only missed one out of 8 or 9 (brain fried). One litter of 2. One litter with 10, but only 3 survived. The rest were all 9-11.

-K
 
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Fisher's stats for siring surgical implant litters:
#1 frozen 8 pups
#2 live AI (both dogs present) 7 pups
#3 frozen 0 pups
#4 live 5 pups
#5 live 5 pups
#6 live 5 pups
#7 live 9 pups

progesterone testing and having a good vet is the key
 
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$$$$ invested with minimal results - progestrone testing used and highly recommend vets who are achieving litters for other breeders.
#1 - 6 pups
#2 - 0 pups
#3 - 2 pups
#4 - 0 pups
#5 - 12 pups (tran scervical - Thank you Dr. Maria in Stillwater)
#6 - 3 pups
#7 - 0 pups (1 pup confirmed at ultrasound 4 weeks ago but reabsorbed).

Given the trans cervical was the only successful breeding in over 10 years, and most costly, given the expenses involved with small litters or no pups produced, I will try transervical again if I can't get a natural done.

Oh, and mixed in all those above, vets performed 3 side-by-side AIs with careful progestrone testing and no pups.

Could be driving a Lexus...or taking my trip to Italy.
 
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