You are correct in that it does not have to be done in one day with the very inexperienced dog. But at some point in training, before the dog is ready to run a "Q" it should be able to do both on the same blind and be comfortable doing it.
Walt is this water at Baypoint Kennels?![Image]()
Here's a picture of the property used in the last series of a Qualifying up in Canada last June.
Walt
It's hard to judge the distance from a pic. The go bird should land in the water.
Ohh we've been trying to get some good training in. but its hard with all the snow. Guided a pheasant hunt yesterday. I agree this seems like it might be more of an AA test. I was thinking the wind at your back.
I like that middle mark.Nice piece of water. better suited for all age test but thats what we're training for right. Beautiful spot for wide open triple. No need to get technical here.
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2T if your dog is doing this
you'll be just fine. Most of all just have fun. I remember a derby I ran with my chocolate male "Gator" last spring. 1st series short bird was angled back across a ditch. Sent the dog went right in line with the aof got just past the gunner and broke down and started a nice tight hunt. Let him go hoping he would hunt back across the ditch. Then he kicked up a song bird laying in the grass and like a rocket he was on it. Just had to laugh and try like he** to get him back in. They don't always do what we would like them to do, but just go with the flow and have fun.
Don't worry about what you see here...he'll do fine
John, if this was a trial and this is what they gave me for water I'd probably only shoot a double with the left hand mark being the flyer and the middle mark retired.
Wade, I like the 2 left hand marks, don't care for the mark on the point though. Turn that into a boat mark off to the right and make it a delayed triple, long gun, boat mark, come back from boat mark shoot island bird then go for long one. Boat marks are good to train on. You would be surprised how many dogs act like they have never seen a boat. A good drill to practice when you're around big water and lilly pads![Image]()
This is such a big piece of water I have tried to minimize the swims.
Birds #1 & 2 are a mom & pop of the point. #1 is thrown to the small island, while #2 is thrown to the tip of the point.
#3, Go bird is long swim. Bird is thrown right to left past bushes to give the dogs some running room up there.
Wind is slight at the handlers back.
However, with the water being so big I agree with Greg and maybe just do a double. Using the same line or close to it, I would consider shooting a flyer off the tip of the point into the open water. Then running a long retired behind the flyer station across the big water up the hill. Possibly cutting the corner off the back side of the flyer if it wouldn't be to tight.
