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Must have been when the Norther blew thru CenTex.....as always very nice pictures
 
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Cool pics, Dave
 
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here are a few shots from the weekend - no page this time. too tired and busy, but you may recognize a person or dog or two......

sheesh - 30 mph sustained at times with 40mph gusts and temps in the low 40's makes for a looooooong weekend....
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No kidding.... Let's not forget the monsoon that blew through the day before... It really raised heck with the dog work.... :-x

Nice pics like always David, Thanks!!!!

Angie
 
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Rainmaker said:
How did your Master flight go, David? I heard only 14 passed flight B. Nice pics.
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even less passed flight A - only 13 even made it to the 3rd. i heard 9 passed, but thats not certain as i heard another somewhere else. i went out in the second.

here's a quote from an email i got from someone who shall remain anonymous, but just to give you an idea:

"I thought you might like to hear that Master B had a land blind (yes, land -- not water) and there was a small piece of water the size of the hood of a truck. The judges said "you have to get wet" on the blind. (Water blinds had been run in series 1). One pro had a dog get it's left two paws wet, but not the right paws. They dropped him. The blind he ran was good. The reason was he did not get "all four paws wet" on the land blind.

I was not there, but it sure sounds like they came up with a lot of technical reasons to drop dogs. Apparently the marks in all series were crosswind, so dogs were getting the marks (regardless of marking ability) and they simply came up with incredibly nit-picky reasons to drop dogs that were extreme. I have seen tough tests where dogs eliminate themselves, but I can say I have not heard of a hunt test being run like that before. "

the judging was just as brutal as the weather!! i had issues with several points in A as well, but in the end i know we had some issues crop up that need fixin' - both dog, trainer, and handler items. heck, i was just glad to be in the 24 of 56 that got called back to the second, with one shot flyer 3 feet high, then the rebird at 2' high. it was just a mess all around with the winds and cold and i am sure the judges much preferred to be somewhere else......
 
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david gibson said:
even less passed flight A - only 13 even made it to the 3rd. i heard 9 passed, but thats not certain as i heard another somewhere else. i went out in the second.

here's a quote from an email i got from someone who shall remain anonymous, but just to give you an idea:

"I thought you might like to hear that Master B had a land blind (yes, land -- not water) and there was a small piece of water the size of the hood of a truck. The judges said "you have to get wet" on the blind. (Water blinds had been run in series 1). One pro had a dog get it's left two paws wet, but not the right paws. They dropped him. The blind he ran was good. The reason was he did not get "all four paws wet" on the land blind.

I was not there, but it sure sounds like they came up with a lot of technical reasons to drop dogs. Apparently the marks in all series were crosswind, so dogs were getting the marks (regardless of marking ability) and they simply came up with incredibly nit-picky reasons to drop dogs that were extreme. I have seen tough tests where dogs eliminate themselves, but I can say I have not heard of a hunt test being run like that before. "

the judging was just as brutal as the weather!! i had issues with several points in A as well, but in the end i know we had some issues crop up that need fixin' - both dog, trainer, and handler items. heck, i was just glad to be in the 24 of 56 that got called back to the second, with one shot flyer 3 feet high, then the rebird at 2' high. it was just a mess all around with the winds and cold and i am sure the judges much preferred to be somewhere else......
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David

I was not counting but it seemed a little like there was more than 9 ribbons passed out but I am not sure. It did not take too long to hand out the ribbons though. It will be interesting to see how many passed once it is posted on EE.

Good seeing you and good luck in the Dock Dogs coming up.

Art
 
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I will admit it was not something I had seen before in master b this weekend. BUT at least THE HANDLER knew what the judges wanted! Made me nervous as heck, but helped me be a smarter handler. Thanks to the all the judges this weekend for sitting out in the horrible weather and eating cold sandwiches while watching dogs work.

Cheers,
Brad Overstreet
 
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Brad Overstreet said:
I will admit it was not something I had seen before in master b this weekend. BUT at least THE HANDLER knew what the judges wanted! Made me nervous as heck, but helped me be a smarter handler. Thanks to the all the judges this weekend for sitting out in the horrible weather and eating cold sandwiches while watching dogs work.

Cheers,
Brad Overstreet
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the poor judges didnt get to taste the awesome hot chile Brad had brewing on his tailgate! talk about hitting the spot on a cold day! thanks!

and Brad makes a good point, at least they told you what they expected. some tests are harder than others, thats what keeps it interesting....and in the end the most prepared team will make it through....
 
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That's the whole secret! Knowing what the judges wanted. Knowing my set of judges like a do, they didn't have to tell me... I knew what they were looking for from the get go.

Personally I didn't think the test was unfair in Master B. A Master dog should take a pothole of water. It should cast into the wind. It should be able to count to 3.

Unfortunately my master dogs forgot they knew how to do that.....

Angie
 
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Angie B said:
That's the whole secret! Knowing what the judges wanted. Knowing my set of judges like a do, they didn't have to tell me... I knew what they were looking for from the get go.

Personally I didn't think the test was unfair in Master B. A Master dog should take a pothole of water. It should cast into the wind. It should be able to count to 3.

Unfortunately my master dogs forgot they knew how to do that.....

Angie
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very true! no matter how "tough" or unfair judges may seem to be, it would not keep me from running under them any other time. in the end its just things a master dog should be able to do, just different degrees of difficulty in different areas of retrieving skills you should be ready for. if anything, it presents a challenge that you should accept, not hide from. this aint no soccer game where you dont keep score. i have yet to run under a judge that i will not run under again. dont see a point in it. always something new to learn from each test...
 
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Art Stoner said:
David

I was not counting but it seemed a little like there was more than 9 ribbons passed out but I am not sure. It did not take too long to hand out the ribbons though. It will be interesting to see how many passed once it is posted on EE.

Good seeing you and good luck in the Dock Dogs coming up.

Art
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were you one or 2 of them?
 
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What exactly is a cold day down that way?
 
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david gibson said:
very true! no matter how "tough" or unfair judges may seem to be, it would not keep me from running under them any other time. in the end its just things a master dog should be able to do, just different degrees of difficulty in different areas of retrieving skills you should be ready for. if anything, it presents a challenge that you should accept, not hide from. this aint no soccer game where you dont keep score. i have yet to run under a judge that i will not run under again. dont see a point in it. always something new to learn from each test...
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Exactly! There is only one set of judges I won't run under because I can never figure out what they want.

It was a solid, seasoned master test. I have really only 2 solid seasoned master dogs. The rest are either inconsistent or new to masters. It was too much test for the majority of my dogs in the best of weather conditions...

Angie
 
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