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So my pup is almost 8 months old now, and she just started to pee in the house this past week! We've always let her out the side of the house and there has always been snow on the ground.

It's like she's confused because there is no more snow on the ground. We have resorted to puppy mode, constantly monitoring her, restricting access to the rooms in the house and letting her out regularly. She goes outside and just sniffs around. We could let her out 3 times in a short period time, repeating the command 'hurry up' and she wouldn't pee! Then in the house right in front of us she would pee.

She's always whined or rang the bells, but not anymore. She would do either excessively and we would know it was fake and out of boredom and ignore her sometimes. Maybe she just doesn't know how to tell us she needs to go!

She also doesn't pee in the back yard. We could be out there for and hour, and I'd have to bring her back through the house and out the side yard for her to pee! Maybe she's just super picky where she pees?

It shouldn't be a bladder issue because it's not excessive. I'm just not sure what to do.

I'm on my last straw. I was planning out my morning and getting everything ready, I took out my running shoes and laid them on the floor in the porch. Then I let the dogs out for like 5 minutes in the front yard while I loaded the truck, we all came back in and I looked over and she squatted LITERALLY on top of my running shoe! There was a puddle inside!

I don't know what to do.
 
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Jennifer, you'll have to keep training her.

I drove down the Alaska Hiway with a pup born in November. She had never peed outside on anything but snow and ice. We got down to Washington state and at one stop there was no snow or ice handy. She couldn't pee. I didn't realize what was happening at first but I did notice she hadn't relieved herself and I knew she should have to go. By accident I walked over a small patch of icy snow when we were almost back at the truck. The relief in that pups expression was sudden, she squatted down and peed a quart. Not really but she did have to go. She'd just been waiting around for the right spot.

You'll have to get her used to going outside and letting her know it's fine if she pees on something besides ice and snow. It shouldn't take more than a couple/three days.
 
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I am a huge fan of crate training young dogs they can't stand peeing in there crates so they have to let you know when it is time and then when you let them out it is directly to the back yard or side door for your case
 
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It seems she is starting to show her marking. I wouldn't normally say that but when she peed on your shoes that's a big tell.
Do you have another dog in the hous? If so, take them both out and leash up the pup, walk around till the other one pee's and walk the pup over there and see if she'll pee on top of the other's if she does she's starting to show that she wants to be dominate.
Get a pop can and put pennies in it, when you see her squat shake the can hard and command "NO" and throw her out side immediately.
This worked for me. So give it a try.
 
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metalone67 said:
It seems she is starting to show her marking. I wouldn't normally say that but when she peed on your shoes that's a big tell.
Do you have another dog in the hous? If so, take them both out and leash up the pup, walk around till the other one pee's and walk the pup over there and see if she'll pee on top of the other's if she does she's starting to show that she wants to be dominate.
Get a pop can and put pennies in it, when you see her squat shake the can hard and command "NO" and throw her out side immediately.
This worked for me. So give it a try.
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I do have another dog in the house, and she is very dominant. She lifts her leg to pee and marks everywhere when we're outside. I don't know if this will effect the pup.

When I catch her in the act (of peeing in the house) I grab her by the scruff, lift her up, and say 'NO' then drag her outside. I also give her HUGE praise when she tells us she needs to go out and after she pees... it's like she's 8 wks old again...
 
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Is it possible that my older dominant female has marked/claimed EVERYTHING and my younger submissive female doesn't know where she 'can' pee and the only space that isn't claimed by the dominate one, is in the house?
 
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Howard N said:
Jennifer, you'll have to keep training her.

I drove down the Alaska Hiway with a pup born in November. She had never peed outside on anything but snow and ice. We got down to Washington state and at one stop there was no snow or ice handy. She couldn't pee. I didn't realize what was happening at first but I did notice she hadn't relieved herself and I knew she should have to go. By accident I walked over a small patch of icy snow when we were almost back at the truck. The relief in that pups expression was sudden, she squatted down and peed a quart. Not really but she did have to go. She'd just been waiting around for the right spot.
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that story cracks me up Howard. Did you carry a bucket of snow around for her, after that? LOL:D I have had a similar experience with one of my dogs, pretty funny!
 
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Just keep at her she will figure it out. Don't be passive about this she needs to know this is not acceptable.
 
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I went home for lunch, I let her out in the back yard for 5 minutes, and nothing. So I brought her through the house to the side door to make sure she peed... SHE PEES not even a foot from the side door. Right on the door mat, and there was no warning. It was like she wanted to pee before she went outside!

I don't know if she has some kind of urinary problem, I'm not even sure what the symptoms are but I'm taking her to the vet after work because this is out of hand.
 
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Keep taking her out. If she happens to pee on the door mat take and put that out in the yard and take her near it. She will eventually understand that this is her pee spot. Another thing is when you let her out of the kennel, take her immediatly outside, don't give her a chance to even think about it. Keep us posted.
 
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... I don't know what to do ...
She just doesn't like to pee outside. I've tried everything. I've tried leaving her alone in the yard but she just sniffs around tries to find sticks, I've tried leaving her outside with Quest so maybe she'll pee where Quest pees, but no she just plays with Quest, I've tried putting her on leash and following her around, I've tried repeating 'Hurry up' in a happy tone like it's a fun thing, I've tried putting pressure on her by saying 'hurry up' firmly and not allowing her to go sniffing until she goes pee, I've tried taking her for long walks, but she still doesn't pee while we're out, I've been really patient with her at home, and I'm sometimes outside with her for 20 minutes trying to get her to pee. Most times I don't come back in until she pees.

I've also thought that maybe she associates peeing with going inside and maybe she wants to stay outside. So after she pees than I praise by letting Quest out and playing ball or something.

When she does pee it's like I won the lottery and I make a HUGE deal about it, praise, pet and most times treat!

Recently when she does pee it isn't a distinctive squat, sometimes she walks around normally and is peeing... it's odd.

I brought her to work today, and I went out at 10:00 for our normal pee break. She played with the other puppies then they went inside and I walked around with her for like 5 minutes trying to get her to pee... but nothing. I brought her inside, took her upstairs so that I could go pee, and while I had her in the bathroom with me she peed all over the floor. And she started peeing as she was laying against me. I've never seen a dog pee while laying down. Almost makes me think there is something wrong, but I went to the vet! She does get a little shy and scared after she pees. I think I've scolded her a few to many times ;x I just grab her by the scruff and drag her outside with a firm 'NO'. But she's a little softy.

I don't know what to do... Suggestions?
 
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Do you have a fenced in area you can put her? My oldest female will pee an walk at the same time, no big deal there.
It seems to me that she got rewarded some how when she peed in the house, it may have happened a bit after she did it but some how stuck in her mind.
Don't give in to her acting soft, fakery is just another way of avoiding pressure, you need to let her know one way or another that she can't go back in the house unless she pee's. Chain her outside where you can watch through a window. If she pees then go let her back in.
Another question, does she poop in the house?
 
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Jennifer Teed said:
Rebel is clear of a UTI and she's starting to click in that peeing in the house is bad ;D

Hurray, but it's still much more difficult and frustrating than house training a new puppy.
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Apperently not an infection.
 
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She never poops in the house, and I have already taken her to the vet.

I like the idea of tying her up outside, but she would probably enjoy it to much. She tends to pick up anything off the ground, chew on sticks and pounce/chase after leaves, bugs and anything she can. My yard is pretty secure, but there are just to many distractions and games. Like I said, I could take her for a long walk, off leash in the woods and she wouldn't pee! It might still be effects of the snow going away. She has been peeing in puddles, maybe that's the closest thing to snow ;x but the snow has been gone for almost a month!
 
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She isn't spayed. Thank you for the link! I'm not sure if this is the case because when she pees she empties her bladder, she doesn't leak. However, her pees could start with a leak and then maybe she can't control holding the rest of the pee in.

Poor girl... shucks
 
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Hi, this might sound cruel but maybe turn her into an outside dog for a couple weeks. Leave water and shelter for her and of course give her playtime and exercise/attention. Just let her live outside. She will have no choice but to eventually pee out there. Then she will get used to that as being normal. Just a thought.

Danielle
 
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I'm happy to report that she hasn't peed in the house for two days now! She's going out and peeing on her own, and she's telling us now when she needs to go out. Her methods are a little different from before, but that doesn't matter :D
 
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