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#21 ·
R Little said:
Question was asked where SRS ranked compared to FC,AFC,ECT and I answered and you got all bunched up:rolleyes:

Might need to reread the original post to figure that one out buddy. SRS is a venue created for certain Hunt Test Pros to showcase their talents on TV and make money for the "Promoter", and get a "Cult" like following in order to keep the $$$$$$$$ rolling in. Don't be ashamed, everybody needs to be somebody, even on the internet.;-)
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I was really surprised recently when my civic group was checking into holding an SRS event that
1. They were willing to let a bunch of guys with ZERO retriever experience hold one of their events and
2. Charge that club $10,000 (before expenses) to hold one.
Number 2 really surprised me and from what I was told through PM it's even more expensive if you want to hold a televised event.
 
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#22 ·
achiro said:
I was really surprised recently when my civic group was checking into holding an SRS event that
1. They were willing to let a bunch of guys with ZERO retriever experience hold one of their events and
2. Charge that club $10,000 (before expenses) to hold one.
Number 2 really surprised me and from what I was told through PM it's even more expensive if you want to hold a televised event.
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It's all about the "Benjamins!" ;-)

k g
 
#23 · (Edited)
Gentlemen and Ladies,

The Super Retriever Series is a hybrid event. It is not comparable to a Field Trial a Hunt Test or a Bird Dog Challenge. It is not similar to AKC or UKC. It is an event like no other. It is testing a total retriever/handler/trainer. It is not just testing field trial dogs or hunt test dogs but a total dog. Can you take a fire breathing field trial dog and throw him into a swamp swinging a shotgun over his head and shooting close birds? You sure can! Will that dog perform well? Well he might or he might not or it might be just to much for him to handle. On the flip side you could take a hunt test dog and throw him into a very complex field trial setup with long thought out marks. Will he perform? Well he might or he might not. The SRS is looking for an animal that can handle ducks in your face shooting a gun hooting and hollering and everything associated with a hunt.....layout blinds, pits, boats, decoys and EXCITEMENT! They are also looking for the dog that has the advance training that will go out and pickup that long retired gun and has the advance training to do handle that kind of marks. We as a retriever community I would think would want to support and promote any dog related venue. Its good for the sport, the breeds and communities all of our venues will compete in.

As a very new person in the dog world I get so sick and tired (frustrated) of everyone bashing AKC, UKC, NARHA, BDC, SRS, super dock or even the show ring. Just play the game and promote all venues. All these games and competitions will make us better dog trainers and handlers.

Thank you,
Jon-Michael Rull
 
#24 ·
Like I stated earlier Dekester, do a search on RFT for "SRS" and you'll find more discussions about this topic than you'll ever care to read.

YOU may be pretty new, post-wise, to RTF, but the topic of SRS is quite "popular" as you will find if you do a search.

k g
 
#27 ·
Dekester said:
Gentlemen and Ladies,

The Super Retriever Series is a hybrid event. It is not comparable to a Field Trial a Hunt Test or a Bird Dog Challenge. It is not similar to AKC or UKC. It is an event like no other. It is testing a total retriever/handler/trainer. It is not just testing field trial dogs or hunt test dogs but a total dog. Can you take a fire breathing field trial dog and throw him into a swamp swinging a shotgun over his head and shooting close birds? You sure can! Will that dog perform well? Well he might or he might not or it might be just to much for him to handle. On the flip side you could take a hunt test dog and throw him into a very complex field trial setup with long thought out marks. Will he perform? Well he might or he might not. The SRS is looking for an animal that can handle ducks in your face shooting a gun hooting and hollering and everything associated with a hunt.....layout blinds, pits, boats, decoys and EXCITEMENT! They are also looking for the dog that has the advance training that will go out and pickup that long retired gun and has the advance training to do handle that kind of marks. We as a retriever community I would think would want to support and promote any dog related venue. Its good for the sport, the breeds and communities all of our venues will compete in.

As a very new person in the dog world I get so sick and tired (frustrated) of everyone bashing AKC, UKC, NARHA, BDC, SRS, super dock or even the show ring. Just play the game and promote all venues. All these games and competitions will make us better dog trainers and handlers.

Thank you,
Jon-Michael Rull
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Great post. There are a few on here that carry an air about them that without directly saying it, they think that because they have a QAA dog or play the field trial game that they are far above the hunt test rift raft. I have a great deal of respect for field trial dogs and their handlers, matter of fact that is how I cut my teeth in the sport was helping two pros train field trial dogs on the west coast. There were three FCs, and two AFCs in the club so I really don't need someone to constantly remind me of how much of an upper level field trial dogs compete at. Like people have said, it is a different venue one that I haven't the money, time nor the land to stretch a dog out to compete at that level. I sit comfortable running HRC and will soon start AKC with my goal being an HRCH and AKC master hunter. Im just happy to be around dog people in general....and in the end, Im sure that Lean Mac would have enjoyed a snuggle up with a nice beef bone next to the fireplace, same as my dog after a cold day in the blind....;-)
 
#28 ·
Dekester said:
KG,

Sir,

What do I need to do a search on?
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Either "SRS" or "Super Retriever Series"....you'll find PLENTY of feedback on the topic with either. Just scroll through pages and you'll find discussions going back as far as three years on the topic.

Just click on thew word "search" on the bar under the ads at the top of the page, type in what you want to search for, and you'll be on your way.

k g
 
#30 ·
It does amaze me how many people come on here and bash the SRS when they have never ran one but have seen it on tv and now can form an opinion.

I personally ran 5 SRS events last yr, I cashed 3 checks, have the elusive SRS title on my dog and I ran in the crown Championship.

I also ran 13 open and Amateurs in the last year. I have 2 placements and 7 jams to show for it, so you can tell I really don't have that much dog. I will tell you this, getting a check in an SRS event is much harder than any Open or Amateur that I have ever run.

I have seen several FC and AFC crash and burn on the SRS level, I have also seen several good SRS dogs crash and burn on the All Age level. It is a very unique event. I encourage all NFC, NAFC, FC, AFC dogs to sign up for the Huntsville Classic in Nov and we can all talk about how you did on Monday morning. I predict there will be well over 120 starters, just like there was over 120 starters in all 3 classics last yr.

Now to educate some of you........

The tv show only shows 2 series, one is usually a shoot em up series and if they are pressed for daylight the other series could also be a hunt test. Everything is about producing a show that has just recieved the highest ratings ever.

I have seen more dogs break on rubber duckies than I have seen on real live fliers, so for all the people who think their dog is too good for a rubber duckie, well the dog doesn't really care.

My love life has increased dramatically since I was on tv for 5 weeks straight, every morning there are female groupies at the end of my drive way wanting my autograph and wanting to get their picture with my dog. Most of them are pretty darn hot!!!!

Go run a SRS event, when you get there tell them you have a high powered field trial dog and they will probably cut you a check right then and there, I mean its that easy..

Carry on........................
 
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My love life has increased dramatically since I was on tv for 5 weeks straight, every morning there are female groupies at the end of my drive way wanting my autograph and wanting to get their picture with my dog. Most of them are pretty darn hot!!!!


Yea right lol.
 
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It is quite a stament to say that a SRS title means NOTHING.

Wether you like the game or not, a dog to suceed at ANY venue has to have some talent.....

Granted if you were looking for an AA dog you would not put as much stock in the SRS title as you would a FC or AFC, but you would rather see NO titles and have a "hole" in a pedigree (completely untitled "brood bitch" or such) then see an SRS title????
 
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#36 ·
Is there a list of SRS titles?

How about a list of SRS title holders?

I honestly didn't know there was an SRS title.
 
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K G said:
Either "SRS" or "Super Retriever Series"....you'll find PLENTY of feedback on the topic with either. Just scroll through pages and you'll find discussions going back as far as three years on the topic.

Just click on thew word "search" on the bar under the ads at the top of the page, type in what you want to search for, and you'll be on your way.

k g
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Too bad the best SRS thread of all time is lost in cyberspace. :D
 
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Maybe not official titles, but QAA is not a title but it means you got first or second in a qual....

A notation that a dog placed in a SRS would carry some weight with me, if as has been mentioned that they sometimes have over a hundred entries in classics, a dog that won (or placed) in such a field would have proved something. MAybe (probably) not as much as an AA open with 100 dogs, but probably at least as much as QUAL. I would bet that most dogs that are FC's with some "crossover training" would do well in SRS, as I would be willing to bet that SRS dogs with appropriate "crossover training" would be competitive AA dogs.

GOOD DOGS IS GOOD DOGS, no matter the venue/game.
 
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