When do you know that your dogs OB is good enough to move on to FF? For the most part max has instant sit's and depending how many distractions there are outside his recall is good.(following smartwork and he is ecollar conditioned to here)
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When do you know that your dogs OB is good enough to move on to FF? For the most part max has instant sit's and depending how many distractions there are outside his recall is good.(following smartwork and he is ecollar conditioned to here)
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How old is he? Can't start FF till pup has all his adult teeth in at 6 months of age.
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Sit mean sit, yes that is great advice there. It would not hurt to get that paint roller and start working on hold.. Do you have the Smartfetch DVD's and book? That is excellent reference material.
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Depends on what you call FF. To just teach hold, and a stationary fetch with an ear pinch a solid sit would probably be enough. If you add walking fetch and stick fetch you would need a good heel as well.
You will know you were not ready if a deficiency in obedience inhibits progress with FF. This is true any time you try to progress in training.
You will know you were not ready if a deficiency in obedience inhibits progress with FF. This is true any time you try to progress in training.
Don't have the book or DVD,planning on getting it soon so I can start to review it and develope a understanding. Captainjack- once I start ff I want to move step by step through it. I'm still working on heel with him. I just wanted to know if there is something that tells me okay my dogs ob is good enough to move onto ff
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The material goes in much greater detail and cover's the prerequisite training required before starting the FF process. Get the material before you start, you will find it very informative and you will enjoy the fact the author will help you out if you get stuck..
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Your question is a good one but difficult to answer. Your OB will never be perfect, so short of perfection, how good is good enough? The great thing about going through a step by step plan is that if you move on too soon, you will see it in the next step.
So if you move on to FF and have a problem related to OB, just stop and go back. No big deal.
Thanks for the answer.
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Agree with Glen, OB will not be perfect, just so he has a solid understanding. Obedience will always be worked on from this day onwards so you will always be given that opportunity ;-)
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Dogs don't become perfect at any age. They become reliable. In your primary obedience work you're looking for reliablity and stability at "sit". A lack of stability at sit can and does tend to break down FF sessions unnecessarily.
If you feel he's stable at sit, start "Hold", and let me show you if he's stable enough. But get your material first and study it; preferrably both book & DVD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd72kl9lZlc
I directly connect obedience with force fetch because it's easier for a dog to progress when you aren't diluting sessions with side issues.
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What material does the book go over that the dvd does not? correct me if i'm wrong but when I start hold I should not see any "bugging"?
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It's dog to dog, but most show some signs of not finding "hold" agreeable at first. Some are very resistant, while others are more accepting. Expect it, and deal with it patiently, but firmly.
The thing is, if your obedience has not produced stability your dog can be expected to stand up, squirm, spin, try to lay down, or any number of avoidance behaviors to try to escape pressure. That's why pressure conditioning is such an important part of your fundamental obedience. The Obedience DVD shows what the book explains at length about the standards for obedience, and what the principles are. The two were intended to work together for maximum clarity.
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The thing is, if your obedience has not produced stability your dog can be expected to stand up, squirm, spin, try to lay down, or any number of avoidance behaviors to try to escape pressure. That's why pressure conditioning is such an important part of your fundamental obedience. The Obedience DVD shows what the book explains at length about the standards for obedience, and what the principles are. The two were intended to work together for maximum clarity.
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