If you could choose any dog that ever lived, who would you want a puppy out of? Just trying to learn more about Goldens that have tested or trialed.
Who would you choose? Goldens
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If you could choose any dog that ever lived, who would you want a puppy out of? Just trying to learn more about Goldens that have tested or trialed.
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Are you asking about Sires or Dams?
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Sorry my bad. Either and please feel free to suggest if you would want a sire bred to a certain dam.
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If it was possible I would clone FC-AFC Myoaks Smok'n Zeke. Zeke was just an unbelievaly great dog. Very stylish, intellegent marker and watery. I don't know offhand how many all age points he had, but it was a lot, plus something close to 30 derby points, he had two double headers and was a finalist in the 94 National Amateur. Zeke contracted a cureable cancerbut was tragically killed by an accidental overdose of chemo durring treatment.
Zeke as great as he was never had the opportunity to pass those genes on to future generations. My first Ft pup was out of Zeke. Topbrass Wildfire Cody MH ***, the dog in my avatar was out of Zeke and posessed many Zeke traits, unbelievable drive, great structure, courage, but alas there was only one Zeke.
If you are talking about alltime great Golden sires I would put two names up for nomination, I would pick Holway Barty back in the 80s and Bro for the last decade.
John
Zeke as great as he was never had the opportunity to pass those genes on to future generations. My first Ft pup was out of Zeke. Topbrass Wildfire Cody MH ***, the dog in my avatar was out of Zeke and posessed many Zeke traits, unbelievable drive, great structure, courage, but alas there was only one Zeke.
If you are talking about alltime great Golden sires I would put two names up for nomination, I would pick Holway Barty back in the 80s and Bro for the last decade.
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Actually 4% of goldens submitted to OFA are Exc. Now look what you made me go look up!
(Fishie is Exc and has produced 2 Exc's)
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Lol Fisher is gorgeous to boot! Hoping!Actually 4% of goldens submitted to OFA are Exc. Now look what you made me go look up!
(Fishie is Exc and has produced 2 Exc's)
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I'm with John.
I also would clone his sister (Ginger).
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I also would clone his sister (Ginger).
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I was always taken by FC-AFC Sangamo Red.
I'm not a field trialer but I would sometimes take a day off and drive 2-300 miles to a field trial just to see Harold Bruninga running his Goldens. Over the years, he had several stars but my favorite was Sangamo Red.
Eric
I'm not a field trialer but I would sometimes take a day off and drive 2-300 miles to a field trial just to see Harold Bruninga running his Goldens. Over the years, he had several stars but my favorite was Sangamo Red.
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Wayne where are you?
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Anyone else have any input? Appreciate those who have so far.
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I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned Topbrass Cotton ... and his sire, Holway Barty. Zeke and Sangamo Red died about the same time as Cotton, around '94 and '95 ... so they are somewhat contemporaries of each other. Barty died in 1984.
Most Golden people today can only evaluate the older dogs through their statistics of production. That doesn't really substitute for knowing/seeing a dog work in the flesh. So even though the question included the parameters "who ever lived", people are most likely to refer to dogs whom they knew, or whose immediate offspring they knew (or know).
Am also surprised that no one has mentioned Wraith's Duncan or Smoke'n Red Devil, names that appear in many pedigrees.
Most Golden people today can only evaluate the older dogs through their statistics of production. That doesn't really substitute for knowing/seeing a dog work in the flesh. So even though the question included the parameters "who ever lived", people are most likely to refer to dogs whom they knew, or whose immediate offspring they knew (or know).
Am also surprised that no one has mentioned Wraith's Duncan or Smoke'n Red Devil, names that appear in many pedigrees.
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I like Topbrass Eli, but he is the only great golden that I have seen run. I personally am hoping to get a Jake pup so I can have Eli in the pedigree. Back in the day, he was very patient with a new trainer like me who got to heel him to feel how a real dog heels.
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What about Tangelo's Sidekick? He had 130 aa points.
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Yankee's Smokin' Red Devil
I had a pup from him.
Not for the timid or weak of heart.;-)
(the bitch was out of Windbreakers Mighty Mo)
Some others of note;
Tioga Joe
Tigathoe's Kiowa II
Sungold Lad's Talisman
Windbreakers Razz Ma Tazz
Northbreaks Kinike Sir Jim
FC/AFC's all I believe.
stan b
I had a pup from him.
Not for the timid or weak of heart.;-)
(the bitch was out of Windbreakers Mighty Mo)
Some others of note;
Tioga Joe
Tigathoe's Kiowa II
Sungold Lad's Talisman
Windbreakers Razz Ma Tazz
Northbreaks Kinike Sir Jim
FC/AFC's all I believe.
stan b
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The question asked could also include any living dogs, not just dead ones! There are some dogs who did not finish their titles, or have not finished them yet, that might still be candidates.
I actually did have a son of Tigathoe's Kiowa II ... and he taught me more than I taught him I now own two of his granddaughters. And owned another of his granddaughters that I purchased in 1988. I believe there are two frozen semen breedings left on him.
I actually did have a son of Tigathoe's Kiowa II ... and he taught me more than I taught him
I now own two of his granddaughters. And owned another of his granddaughters that I purchased in 1988. I believe there are two frozen semen breedings left on him.
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Luke or Bingo
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=20502
Bingo was one of the youngest MH females, and I have been told she was a ton of dog even a an older age. She produced fabulous dogs.
Luke, as I adore his offspring, and i always say go to the source.
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=20502
Bingo was one of the youngest MH females, and I have been told she was a ton of dog even a an older age. She produced fabulous dogs.
Luke, as I adore his offspring, and i always say go to the source.
I know a Speaker son. What a nice dog. If for some reason I decided I needed twice the size of dog, that's where I'd go.
I have Freeze and KiowaII in one of my Goldens. Do you have a link to yours?The question asked could also include any living dogs, not just dead ones! There are some dogs who did not finish their titles, or have not finished them yet, that might still be candidates.
I actually did have a son of Tigathoe's Kiowa II ... and he taught me more than I taught him
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=234406
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