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2xNAFC 2xCNAFC FC CFC Ebonstar Lean Mac traits in the field

7.1K views 12 replies 12 participants last post by  Bruce MacPherson  
#1 ·
Another thread on line breeding teamed with a friend's recent loose line breeding of Maxx brought me to this questioning and wonder. If the intention of line breeding is to increase/amplify certain targeted/desired traits by utilizing the same dog multiple times in a pedigree, THEN WHAT FIELD PERFORMING TRAITS WOULD MAXX HIMSELF HOPEFULLY PASS ON TO HIS PROGENY? Everyone knows how well of a producer he was, but what about HIS actual traits in the field? Derby points, AA points, and titles don't lie, so what were some of the overwhelming traits that played a factor in getting to those FT points that Maxx possessed? Pin point marker, biddable, intelligent, trusting, courageous, intense, competitive, agile, etc etc??? If you have seen Maxx train, compete, or heard first hand accounts of his extreme abilities/traits please enlighten us. Would be very interesting to hear some history on a HOFer!


NOTE: I understand that we can look to plenty of Maxx's progeny to see what traits they have but in a breeding the dam contributes a lot as well, so this is targeted more at his traits and not the mixture.
 
#2 ·
There is really only 1 trait that gets you as many accolades as Maxx had and the #1 reason he has produced more FC's than anybody.. and that is because he passed that trait along and that is.... Marking... Granted it takes a well rounded dog but if you can't find them it doesn't matter how well rounded you are...
 
#3 ·
From a guy that stood over Maxx about as much as Lardy, the answer is desire. Of course, as Dex said, you have to have marking skill, probably intelligence & excellent eye sight too. Couple that marking skill with a level of desire that is rarely seen to retrieve those marks makes for a great performer. Pass that desire to a dog that has lesser marking skills, less intelligence etc and that dog can be a difficult and frustrating training experience. So it's never 1 trait, but rather a combination of traits that mesh well to produce a great dog - and don't forget the training.
 
#4 ·
Great question!

Speaking of training, what made the Lean Mac progeny different to train than pups from Honcho or Rascal breedings. Granddaddy, would you please elaborate more on Lean Mac's a bit ?

Thanks
 
#5 ·
I'm not the guy, but I know the guy - Dave Smith who was a Lardy asst during Maxx years there. I am speaking of what he said about Maxx. Dave trained several of my dogs for some time & he spoke repeatedly of the desire that Maxx had that seemed beyond most dogs. Maxx just wanted the birds more than most dogs.
 
#7 ·
any discussion of Lean Mac's early years has to include Don Remien because the dog was on his truck when Sherwin won his first NARC before he went over to Lardy
 
#9 ·
I'd be interested to hear from those that spent time with him and his progeny which son most took after him. I have heard it said that what ford and Patton so great among their more obvious talents was their biddable nature. I assume this came from lean Mac and explains why such a high drive dog was also a capable team player.