[Bryan Parks]

I'm running into a little trouble on a blind that requires an angled exit and angled re-entry. This morning running a water blind with about a 30 yard swim to a peninsula that's angled then re-entry with another 40-50 yard swim. Takes good initial line but starts to bend right away from the bank of the peninsula, whistle, left back, takes a more left over to square the bank, whistle right back takes cast and exits on line but squares last minute to exit and re-entry, requires right back to finish blind.

She does well with angle entries from the line. It's this concept of maintaining the line, angling exit, angling across the land and angle re-entry. She's just starting to run these bigger water blinds. She does well with channels and anything square.

Something I'm think about as I'm typing this is if we've done many long angled entries from land into water and not a lot.

Thoughts?

 

[Bryan Parks]

Black is line, white is her line. Change of direction are whistles except for square exit.

 

[bamajeff]

I'd do 5-7 bumper lining drill working on angles in a rectangular pond(run short to long until she starts lining the piles and taking good casts when she gets offline). Run from the same spot so each pile requires more of an angle. Once she's got that down, I'd teach the blind above in 2 stages. I'd go out to the spot on the point she needs to exit and run the 2nd half of the blind and then back up and run the entire blind. Once she understands the exit point and the line to the blind, she should 'get it'.

 

[captainjack]

View attachment 56273 Black is line, white is her line. Change of direction are whistles except for square exit.

For most exits, the dog will have to square to some degree, but will learn to self correct and pickup the line he was carrying before the exit.

Looks like you had room to stop him on the peninsula. Why did you let him carry that line across peninsula?

I probably would have handled when he squared to exit on the peninsula. Ignore the blind and just get the angle exit and reentry you want. Once back in water work him to blind.

Advanced tune up drills or at least 3-peats with same concept is what I'd use to work on improving the angle exits/reentries.

 

[rboudet]

No one has asked how old this dog is?

 

[Bryan Parks]

19 months old

 

[dorkweed]

19 months old

I don't think that's bad at all for 19 months.

 

[Bryan Parks]

19 months old

I don't think that's bad at all for 19 months.

I think she's doing great but I'm biased for sure! It's just something that seems to continue to be a problem and just contemplating the process on how to teach her what I want as we progress.

 

[birddogn_tc]

I don't think that's bad at all for 19 months.

Especially for a brown dog!

 

[Hunt'EmUp]

I'd put a white stake on the pile, I'd also move the pile further out pass the road in the field. Give her a goal, teach the line, once she's confident in holding the line and proper exit, then remove the stake. Nice little pond, I could think of several places to put a few white stakes and teach different lines (entries and exits, different angle across the point); then teach her to run the same lines inbtw the stakes, off stakes etc. Or you could teach her a long permanent blind and then work on all the different angles to get there by moving around the pond; would need the permanent to be well away from the pond edge, in the boondocks so it won't interfere with other work you do on the pond.

 

[rboudet]

That is not too bad of a blind for a 19 month old. But I agree with captianjack, why did you let her carry across the pennisula? Should have stop her and cast off with the angle.

 

[NateB]

That long point looks like a nice place to run an Advanced tune up drill, so she can get comfortable with angle exits and re-entries. This providing she does very well with a more simple tune up drill. She is very young and this is an advanced concept, so be sure you teach and not push her too hard.

 

[Tim Carrion]

View attachment 56273 Black is line, white is her line. Change of direction are whistles except for square exit.

How a dog exits water is many times determined where it is positioned as it approaches land along with your timing and to which side the dog turns to stop. In your sketch your 19 m old was great at seeking water on both entries, use that. If my goal to was get the angle exit and re-entry IMHO my success rate would be higher if I get the dog to the left of black line earlier in the first water, approaching land from just left of the line,stopping and casting right just before exit onto land(timing and location is dependent of how the dog usually turns) and then left back into the 2nd water.

Tim

 

[Bryan Parks]

I don't think that's bad at all for 19 months.

Especially for a brown dog!

Haha!......

 

[Bryan Parks]

Thanks for the comments, ideas and things to work on.