[Byron Musick]

I'm thinking of just sending Ken my equipment, since I no longer use it..

He can have my whole shooten match!

1. The Butt Stock forward grip with shoulder strap, including the twisted internal projectile conduit. This really helps if you have a habit of shaking a lot.

2. An extra Nipple, so he will have two to use with his wench, they work better in pairs it seems..

3. A Nipple wrap attachment tool, so force can be applied to the primer on those extra cold days when the nipple seems stiff.

4. A nipple attachment removal tool, for those forced primers, just see item 3..

5. One hair triggered, Nipple Hammer! (Standard Stock Equimpment)

6. The all important Nipple Removal Tool, adaquatly perportioned for functional wench usage (this one plugs the butt properly), as a wrench that is.

7. Two tubes of Nipple Grease, garaunteed to keep it lubed all winter, possibly all season!

But for this sacrafice I'm going to need more than one bottle of syrup!!

 

[Byron Musick]

Oh I forgot, he can have all my un-spent loads too!!

 

[Byron Musick]

Here's a picture of the butt plug, wench Nipple extractor...

 

[Byron Musick]

check your p.m.'s Byron

I've decided I'm going to polish up my equipment and get it ready for ya Ken!!


Gosh its been years since I felt this way! But I know the Syrup will be worth EVERYTHING!!

 

[Byron Musick]

Well I guess you all should have an update. In my quest to get a large nipple wrench for my Dads .50 I traded some maple syrup with Byron Musick from here on RTF for everything in the yellow oval in this snapshot

Who would have thunk there would be three types of nipples!!!!!
What an ordeal this is turning into.

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Maybe a pic of your father's gun would help find the tool you need? I'm sorry it did not do the trick for your dad, but go shoot something with it!!! Glad to see it find a good home, was not getting much use with the Gun cause I got this dog I'd rather play with!!

 

[Byron Musick]

The firing is inconsistent if the plastic accessory is not firmly seated upon the nipple. And it seems this action is affected by cold temps.
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Ken, Seeing this post disturbs me greatly. I can only say with the years of experience I have had with my equipment, it seems, as it gets older it becomes even more affected by cold weather and more difficult to operate...

However it can be overcome as others have suggested, but while we are troubleshooting this, are you using the "Thang" to insert the red thingy (Pasty) on the nipple? This adds more required force to pressure the pasty on the nipple. See drawing, please note I failed to identify the nipple, but I am sure you know which one it is.. The way I used the thang was to wrap it firmly on the pasty and press against the nipple until it popped. (I know this seems cruel, but it works). I used to install the pasty on the nipple in the warm romantic heat of the wood stove prior to hitting the woods, only after I was up in the stand would I put my "load" in, remember, safety first..

I understand you are used to useing more loads than the average person, thus creating more difficulty out in the cold, well, I can't help you there as I was usually one and done... Of coarse a lot can be said of doing it right the first time!

I stand by the deal and will work with you to correct it if possible. Here are spot checks that may help.

1. Apply the pasty in the warmth of the house.
2. Have a USED pasty ready for the field, as with anything, use tends to loosen things up, the more you use it, well you get the idea.
3. Make sure no one has dry fired and damaged the nipple, if damage occurs it tends to flatten out the nipple, actually widening the point, it can make pasty application impossible.

Let me know what I can do, I'll trade you back if needed!

 

[Byron Musick]

The charge/load will fire first time, every time. The reoccurring issue is consistency with the second shot, in the field. Or bench rest shooting on balmy sunny 38° day like yesterday. In the field I cannot get the cold pasties to stay on the nipple. To get them down hard enough. And I have found that when not seated the primer will pop but the flame will not travel all the way through the touchhole to ignite the main charge. It’s a great gun and I love playing with it. I just wish I could consistently get a second load off in the field.


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Try using the same nipple again, see if it can fit better. Just pry the old primer out and put a new one in and see if it helps. Also thinking maybe the channel in the nipple may be in need of cleaning, I have used a small sewing needle to open up the small orifice (which could be partially clogged??)

I also seem to recall having problems if the gun was not completely dry. In this I mean all grease/oil removed from the nipple area and barrel, used to after the first shot, the heat would melt the grease and cause misfires.

I would wash the barrel and nipple in plain soap and water and let it dry. No application of grease, maybe a rub down with some WD-40 via a cloth, but no more than that.

As far as the nipple, you need to make sure the second one is on all they way, in the cold, making the red thingy easier to put on will be necessary, maybe filing down the nipple with some sand paper will make it easier?

 

[Byron Musick]

By chance are you a clutter keeper? Would you have the original nipple assembly?
The Knights did not come with the .209 size
Nipples stock. It must have been augmented
To have the large nipple. If you have any original parts
In your drawers, another trade could happen.

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Yes I am and no I no longer have the original, I had to replace it because the nipple had cracked and I did not trust that it would not blow up in my face!! Nothing worse than exploding nipples!

 

[Byron Musick]

ROFL..... or a life

Oh we have a life, one has not LIVED until one owns a Smokin Pole!! (MuzzleLoader)...

 

[Byron Musick]

Holy Smokes!! Three weeks loaded!! And it went off!! That's a VERY VERY LONG time with the load installed~! I usually empty the inline daily, I was always afraid of moisture getting in the powder, etc.. that is pretty good to function after three weeks, for both guns, but the hidden message is apparently you did not see any game to shoot at.

Finally, with it being as COLD as it looks, it does not surprise me there are nipple issues!

 

[Byron Musick]

I won't touch this comment with Byron's smoke pole-

Wait a minute now, this is Ken's smoken pole, mine has not gone off in a very long time......

I'll blame the dogs for that!

 

[Byron Musick]

Ken's out poking tree's??? Oh My.... Guess that happens when your pole goes for weeks without use.... Oh the darkest hours are just before dawn, hope things get back on track for him...

 

[Byron Musick]

The only thing I can say about that "Sqeeze Box" is....

At least Ken has something he can keep polished if he wants to....

 

[Byron Musick]

I was so close to getting over this thread!! Darn!!