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Karen McCullah

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I've heard handlers say that Q is a "transition" and not to run it for a long time, to move them up to AA to get experience and get them used to the "big leagues". I've also been told to keep a dog in Q for success and to keep up a good attitude, then when the dog Q's out move them up.

How long should one run a dog in the Q? Could the short marks (comparable to All-Age, I mean) do any damage? I mean, a mark is a mark is a mark, isn't it?

Just curious.....
 
My view is you run Qs until you are qualified, i.e., your dog takes a 1st or 2nd in a qualifying stake & no longer. Then train your dog to the point it can be competitive in an AA stake. Some folks have the approach that they go directly from derbies to amateur stakes, bypassing the Q all together. Their logic is that a good, competitive dog might place in an Amateur stake (& therefore gain a qualified status) earlier. My personal goal is to get my dogs QAA by the time they are 3 yrs old. Sometimes I have that success, sometimes I don't. As a general rule, IMO, if a dog can't gain QAA status through Q entry in 18 months of attempts (i.e., by the age of 3.5 yrs), there is a probability the dog may never make QAA status. There are exceptions of course. You just have to objectively judge your dog's potential to be a true AA dog. And there is a big difference between QAA status & a true AA dog. Many QAA dogs never make true, competitive AA dogs.

As for the level of testing in Qs versus Ams, you will find substantial variation in the relative difficulty in both stakes from trial to trial (& from the relative strength within the field of dogs from trial to trial also). As for "damage", I am of the view that there is little to be gained from running your dogs at any level in a trial relative to positive "experience" except the owner/handler gratification that comes with a dog's success. IMO the positive experience is best gained with good training.
 
I can't disagree with Grandaddy Didier at all. I run them in Q's until they've earned a 2nd place or better. I've had them in Q's and Amateurs at the same time and done better in the amateur than I did in the Q.

In general, if they're holding their own in training on the big setups I'll stop running Q's and enter both all age stakes instead.
 
If they can't win a Q, they are probably not going to do well in an AA stake. The Q is for you and the dog when both need experience for AA's. Don't be in a rush to get there, it's where you'll be for the rest of the dog's life and it can be an unfriendly place to be.
 
Many of the people that move up quickly are very experienced handlers, but the Q is a good place if you are not as experienced. It's a good place to get together with your dog before moving up. Think team.
 
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