So you're saying the non-hunting public has never seen you train your dog using non-duck equipment?

I like that statement, don't throw rocks unless you can say you would go out in front of the non-hunting public and throw dead birds.

Kirk, I thought it was in Arkansas and I was wrong. I'll find out what Q he won. Also the statement I made about 4th isn't a slam to anyone that places. I'm was just saying it only gives brag rights, also knowing your dog can compete and getting a ribbon.

I only run HT, AKC and HRC which is what I enjoy. I admire FT people, because they can go out week after week and not come home with ribbons. I do this for enjoyment and relaxation. I can't understand why we as a dog community can't enjoy all dog games. Why would we be against any dog game that people are out training and trying to make their dogs better at what they do or paying someone to do it for them. Like I said before, I think people don't like the idea that these HT Pros are getting the attention they are getting.

 

I'd like to extend an incredible offer......

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I'd like to extend an incredible offer......

I am giving away a signed Rubber Ducky to the first 20 folks that exit from any further comment on this thread.

You must have been a participant to qualify.

Please list your full name along with what color you want.

This is a free offer that you shouldn't pass up.

$0.00 + shipping.

(shipping is $9.99 and will be sent first come first serve)

CALL NOW...............

1-800-SRS-MESS that's 1-800-SRS-MESS that's 1-800-SRS-MESS

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I hear these are big sellers at the SRS events

Got one Ken?

 

I had one right next to my DU sticker but it fell off on my way north going on that hunting trip he invited me on.

 

No Bad what he is saying do you throw dead ducks in front of people that have not seen our sport. If you are in a local park training, do you use bumpers or real ducks? Not everyone can train on private farms, so would you throw ducks in the family park or would you throw bumpers?

 

No Bad what he is saying do you throw dead ducks in front of people that have not seen our sport. If you are in a local park training, do you use bumpers or real ducks? Not everyone can train on private farms, so would you throw ducks in the family park or would you throw bumpers?

No Kim he said JUST AS MANY PEOPLE.....
Keep spinning it any way you want your best argument, that has already been shot down, is that it might bring bad attention to the soprts. That is all you guys have period. Have you missed the point that we as a group own using real birds. I have no problem with it and I will fight the fight when it needs to be fought and I will cuss you and any others who help dig a hole for us to start from

BTW- I do train at several churches and yes I throw birds, but more to the point, how foolish are you to compaire the possibility of a few people watching a guy in a park vs SRS being on national telivision.....wait save your answer I am done with this.

 

Why should JT spend money on real birds (purchase price, storing, care & maintenance and a Game Steward) vs using rubber duckies his sponsor supplies and PAYS him to use? Plus he doesn't have to lose a wink of sleep worrying about the AH nuts. Heck, he might even get another network to pick it up in the future if VS folds or drops the show.

Sorry folks, but the SRS is strictly made for TV. They're doing everything they can think to do to keep their ratings and sponsorship up. Watching it when I did kinda reminded me of when as a little kid we used to play "Army". Only time it ever got real was when we'd get bored and tie firecrackers to our little plastic infantrymen and throw 'em at each other. (#^&#!! those short fuses!!).

If the VS channel really wanted us to watch the SRS, why air it on mornings when we're either hunting, trialing or training? Either cause we're not their target audience or because its such a poorly watched show that it doesn't get a more prime timeslot. Maybe if we handled our dogs while riding bulls...

Mark

 

I know your done Bull and I'm probably done too unless someone else post something for me to argue about. Man I haven't had this much fun in a while.

Bull if you take 1 million trainers across the US and half of them train of public grounds. That is 500,000 people training using what ever training aides they use. I would say most if not all use bumpers or dokens. In the public parks you would probably have at least 5 to 10 people see you train. I would say those numbers are higher than the numbers that watch SRS on TV. Why not get mad at every trainer that doesn't use ducks in public places because they are teaching the public that we can run our dogs using bumpers or dokens. Sorry just had to come up with one more argument. My wife tells me I'm a sore loser, guess I am.......

 

I know your done Bull and I'm probably done too unless someone else post something for me to argue about. Man I haven't had this much fun in a while.

Bull if you take 1 million trainers across the US and half of them train of public grounds. That is 500,000 people training using what ever training aides they use. I would say most if not all use bumpers or dokens. In the public parks you would probably have at least 5 to 10 people see you train. I would say those numbers are higher than the numbers that watch SRS on TV. Why not get mad at every trainer that doesn't use ducks in public places because they are teaching the public that we can run our dogs using bumpers or dokens. Sorry just had to come up with one more argument. My wife tells me I'm a sore loser, guess I am.......

As Dandy Don use to say
If.... if's and but's were candy and nuts oh what a Christmas we would have.... big numbers there......500,000 is over 9500 per state I don't know about your state, but I will bet everything I own that there are not 9500 trainers in Florida even in the winter.
I don;t know about a sore loser, but you have interesting math....a million trainers.....I know FT are getting big entries but holy cow batman I think you numbers are a little off

 

Heck I had to use big numbers or it wouldn't have look as good.

I knew you couldn't stay away..........

 

Heck I had to use big numbers or it wouldn't have look as good.

I knew you couldn't stay away..........

Well I didn't want Ken to send me one of those damn rubber ducks

 

I called the number and got a busy signal, I guess the first 20 are already gone.

 

I sent them all to Gundog.........

He needed something to play with.

 

Thats funny.

 

I think I'm going to buy one of the new white and black ones. I need bull's address, so I can send him an early Christmas present. I think if he keeps one with him, he might be able to bond with it. I guess I can get a sticker for him also so he can put it on his dog box.....

 

Was just wondering didnt know if u used the same name here. Havent seen u in a while.

 

Ok Ken, you need to give away the Doken that you kept for yourself. You are just keeping this thread alive. I tried to call and got a busy signal so send it my way so I don't have to purchase one to send to Bull. Please make it a White and Black one because I think they look cool.

 

Ok Ken, you need to give away the Doken that you kept for yourself. You are just keeping this thread alive. I tried to call and got a busy signal so send it my way so I don't have to purchase one to send to Bull. Please make it a White and Black one because I think they look cool.

I don't have any Doken's........

ATB's baby.

 

I just browses on Waterdog don't post much over there anymore. Seems to be pretty boring over there. Haven't been doing much training anyway.

Just started to get back into it again and this website gets more traffic and it is way more entertaining.

 

Thanks, I almost missed up and order the wrong thing. Forgot they were 2 different things, the educated taught the uneducated that SRS uses ATB's instead of Dokens.

Wait, Bull would you have a problem with SRS if they used Dokens???? Maybe it's just an ATB problem. What does that stand for if we loose having ducks at our ht/ft then ATB stands for All TV to Blame.

 

Just to keep pokin the dead horse. How many FC/AFC dogs have done the diving err dock dogs. Now that some TV right there.

BTW I do know of at least 1. So does that mean the FT dogs are better ;-)

How many dock dog trainers run FT ?

 

Just to keep pokin the dead horse. How many FC/AFC dogs have done the diving err dock dogs. Now that some TV right there.

BTW I do know of at least 1. So does that mean the FT dogs are better ;-)

How many dock dog trainers run FT ?

Steve a far better question is how many dock dogs went on to become FC's or AFC's or MH for that matter.....

 

I believe Lyle Steinman runs a few field trials when he is in Texas. I know River has finished some trials in the US and Canada. At a Kansas City trial she took a second with Dan Heard handling her.

 

Don't have anything to say, just felt like beating a dead horse.

 

Dang Ken have you sent me my ATB, I haven't posted on this thread for at least one day. I'm sure glad we have RTF, because my wife has a honey do list and I told her I had more important things to do. Wait got to sign off because she is coming.......

 

Dang Ken have you sent me my ATB, I haven't posted on this thread for at least one day. I'm sure glad we have RTF, because my wife has a honey do list and I told her I had more important things to do. Wait got to sign off because she is coming.......

Don't forget to close the porn sites first........

 

I need a bandage, couldn't turn off fast enough. Man I don't want to mow the yard, pull the weeds, pick up my clothes, etc but unless I don't want to go to the hospital I better get moving. She only weights around 110 pounds but can throw a mean right.

 

Go for the donkey punch!

 

Wow, I've been away up in SD for a week it looks like the Roux/Tyra pup thread is in danger of being run down by this rambling wreck.

 

Good, it's about time!!