[LabskeBill]

http://masternational.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/final-introduction-of-strategies.pdf

 

[badbullgator]

Too bad that only addresses their entry problems and nothing in regard to what they are doing to weekend HT entries.

 

[Splash_em]

Too bad when you send in a response that it's not even recognized as being received.

Must still be hung over from the parties.

 

[Thomas D]

Kinda old news that should have gone out to each club. MN club that is. Whatever they do, if anything, will affect the weekend HT.

 

[LabskeBill]

Kinda old news that should have gone out to each club. MN club that is. Whatever they do, if anything, will affect the weekend HT.

It is and it did. Other things are MHX but if the Open and Ama clubs develop it is my understanding that you can only run one of the two each year but not both.

 

[Good Dogs]

Too bad that only addresses their entry problems and nothing in regard to what they are doing to weekend HT entries.

Yeah. And they did absolutely NOTHING to address world hunger. Or climate change. Or finding Amelia Earhart. Or . . . .

The strategies were developed to address the math problem at the MN. Nothing more. Discussion continues on what, if anything, the MN can or should do to relieve pressure on weekend HTs. Clubs already have plenty of options open. Drop MNRC membership. Go to mailed entries. Change dates to correspond with nearby clubs. Don't like any of those? Come up with your own list.

 

[badbullgator]

Yeah, yeah nothing to see here. Problem? What problem? I think I will start calling you Bagdad Bob.
If it were a problem for our club I would be happy to drop MN. Keep up Bob, there have been several list and many suggestions posted.

 

[Nate_C]

1. Dogs with the title of MNH do not have to re qualify.
2. Require Dogs to pass 6 out of 8 tests in a given year.
3. Go to 5 series in the MN. I think that is plenty to test a dogs skills.

 

[Thomas D]

Yeah. And they did absolutely NOTHING to address world hunger. Or climate change. Or finding Amelia Earhart. Or . . . .

The strategies were developed to address the math problem at the MN. Nothing more. Discussion continues on what, if anything, the MN can or should do to relieve pressure on weekend HTs. Clubs already have plenty of options open. Drop MNRC membership. Go to mailed entries. Change dates to correspond with nearby clubs. Don't like any of those? Come up with your own list.

How about telling only a select few of your friends when test will open. Then manipulate the draw so that all your friends are in the same flight. That seems to help some get in the tests. It's strange some people never have a problem getting in. Therefore there is no problem in their eyes.

 

[LabskeBill]

If interested in helping, send you suggestion to Elaine whos address is in original post
BillB

 

[Huff]

If the event is limited impose a 10% rule. 1 handler is only allowed to enter up to 10% of the limit. Then only allow 3 entries by one person every 10 min. Or something along those lines. Come on Labske.

 

[badbullgator]

How about telling only a select few of your friends when test will open. Then manipulate the draw so that all your friends are in the same flight. That seems to help some get in the tests. It's strange some people never have a problem getting in. Therefore there is no problem in their eyes.

Preach it Brother Tom.
Your lovely wife really finished this weekend strong. She sure pulled her butt out of the fire.

 

[Thomas D]

Preach it Brother Tom.
Your lovely wife really finished this weekend strong. She sure pulled her butt out of the fire.

I taught her well (ha). I'm proud of her. She's turned into quite the handler and Moxie is a great match for her. I get to stay home and play nurse to two dogs while she gets to go have all the fun.

 

[mjh345]

Too bad that only addresses their entry problems and nothing in regard to what they are doing to weekend HT entries.

You are correct Cory.
However, I really like the Strategy A plan whereby the handler "ranks" his string of dogs. The dogs ranked #1 by all handlers would get in then they would go to dogs ranked in descending order until the flight is full. A random draw would determine which lower ranked dogs would get in when taking all of that rank would exceed the limit.
I think a version of this proposal would be a good way to handle the weekend HT for limited entry events

 

[Thomas D]

There must be a way to preserve places (one each) for workers.
If a 60 dog limit test say 15 for workers leaves 45 spots. While ranking is a good start there will still be many who don't get in. However it might be easier to take if you don't see one handler with half the entries.
How about more owner handler tests?
Whatever the answer it has to be well thought out to minimize unintended consequences and the fact no answer will be perfect.

 

[Kajun Kamakazi]

1. Dogs with the title of MNH do not have to re qualify.

I like this idea, but would expand on it and make it, dogs that passed last year's MN automatically qualify. Similar to a Finalist in the National Am and National Open.

 

[DoubleHaul]

Too bad that only addresses their entry problems and nothing in regard to what they are doing to weekend HT entries.

Did you expect anything different, Corey? The MNRC is not concerned one iota about the weekend HTs--that monkey is not on its back. Its monkey is how to have its event within the constraints of the time and the workers it conscripts and make money on it. The various solutions are only options to solve its own problems, any negative impact it may have on the weekend HTs does not bother the MNRC.

 

[badbullgator]

There must be a way to preserve places (one each) for workers.
If a 60 dog limit test say 15 for workers leaves 45 spots. While ranking is a good start there will still be many who don't get in. However it might be easier to take if you don't see one handler with half the entries.
How about more owner handler tests?
Whatever the answer it has to be well thought out to minimize unintended consequences and the fact no answer will be perfect.

Tom, you would have to have an AM for weekend test. O/H would only lead to pros as co-owners and would do little to solve the problem. O/H also stops the non-pros who might be running a dog for a buddy who could not for whatever reason. I don't have a problem with an am running a dog for another am as much as I do a pro taking up half the field. This weekend the flight I judged was well over half pro handled.

 

[LabskeBill]

If the event is limited impose a 10% rule. 1 handler is only allowed to enter up to 10% of the limit. Then only allow 3 entries by one person every 10 min. Or something along those lines. Come on Labske.

do not understand "come on Labske"

 

[Thomas D]

Ok make it an O/H AM. If buddies want to run buddies dogs make them a co owner (happens in FT all the time.) Otherwise, don't run the dog. Seems the least number of people would be hurt by this.
I am saying this and also incl other limits such as 1 per handler etc.post 14.