[Juli H]

I'd love to get a discussion going similar to the ones regarding marks for the field trial dogs... Unfortunately I do not have any field pictures.....

anyone?

Juli

 

[greg magee]

I'd love to get a discussion going similar to the ones regarding marks for the field trial dogs... Unfortunately I do not have any field pictures.....

anyone?

Juli

Use the same blank pictures and tell us what you think would be a good test

 

[fishduck]

Here is a pic of a field I often use for hunt test set ups.

I have enjoyed the mark and blind discussions. Maybe this pic will help.
Mark L.

P. S. The cover was low at this time but we worked on 3 peats angling through the tall grass on the terrace

 

[brandywinelabs]

Don't know how to get at the pic so here goes.
Memory bird thrown in from deep hay bale on the left landing so the line is just to the left and tight to the haybale in front of it. Flyer station hidden and deep of the tall cover on the right and shot landing deep of the right hand hay bale so the line is between the two hay bales on the right. Double blind - first is just deep of the single center haybale. Second blind is deep to the left to the dark spot at the bottom of the hill.

Looking for: Dogs must mark the memory bird after the long run for the flyer. ON the 1st blind, lots of flyer influence deep. Must exhibit control to get the shorter and near an obstacle blind. Long blind
just did a short mark and then a short blind. Must drive and not break down. The hill should cause some push to the right once they are past the short memory bird.

If you wanted a triple throw left to right so left hand blind is under the arc.

 

[Juli H]

 

[brandywinelabs]

Juli,

That would be asking for a lot of control from a flyer so it does not get to far right or left.
How did you do the pretty lines and arcs?

 

[Juli H]

Juli,

That would be asking for a lot of control from a flyer so it does not get to far right or left.
How did you do the pretty lines and arcs?

probably....could shorten it some - so that it is landing closer to the side of the bale...I'd like to see the flyer remain in that location - changing it to throw to the other side, would open up the test IMO...though you could do an out of order flyer like that, I think....

windows paint...

Juli

 

[Warren Flynt]

Here is a pic of a field I often use for hunt test set ups.

I have enjoyed the mark and blind discussions. Maybe this pic will help.
Mark L.

P. S. The cover was low at this time but we worked on 3 peats angling through the tall grass on the terrace

Mark,

we need to train together! Im in Bham...

 

[KwickLabs]

Here's a water photo. The "look" is from on top of a steep 12' mound. This height gives a better perspective of the water. The backside of the near pond has a narrow, diagonal levee in front of a gradually widening channel (10-15 yds across) where a dog is out sight momentarily (or not).

The green area in the pond with a small tree growing on the right is an island. Behind this island is a small sliver of land coming off the bottom left corner of a penisula. To the right is the tilted, L shaped peninsula with a pocket of water behind it.

We've run setups off the mound and from both sides. Swimming water is immediate everywhere except for a small section of lunging water on the backside of the island.

 

[Thomas D]

I don't like shooting the flyer into the test. The unpredictability of the fall can make it a very difficult test for some dogs. Toughen up other birds if you need to, but shoot the flyer to the left.

 

[John Lash]

Hmmm, perhaps Dave Gibson and Jeff Goodwin have more "field pics."

Dave, when you post pics of your set ups could you post a "clean" pic along with the one you've drawn on?

Now that it doesn't take me an hour to mark up a photo I hate to see it end.

John Lash

 

[brandywinelabs]

It is hard to tell, but the water looks awful tight for more than a double without expecting handles on the marks. But pictures can be deceiving.
Looks like a great place for a double blind.

 

[fishduck]

Warren if you are willing to make the drive from Birmingham to Sulligent you are welcome to train anytime. I have access to lots of land. Water has and will continue to me my Achilles heel. Central Alabama HRC will be having a training day sometime in February around Boligee and our hunt test follows in March.

I have to agree the cover was too low at the time to do much.
Mark L.

 

[Juli H]

I don't like shooting the flyer into the test. The unpredictability of the fall can make it a very difficult test for some dogs. Toughen up other birds if you need to, but shoot the flyer to the left.

perhaps you could switch the flyer to number one, and do an out of order flyer?

Juli

 

[badbullgator]

perhaps you could switch the flyer to number one, and do an out of order flyer?

Juli

Still need to throw it to the left

 

[fishduck]

Here is my test. Assuming wind from Lt to Rt. As there is little cover we are making difficulty with concepts and slots. Blue dots mark the double blinds. The right hand blind is placed at the base of the haybale.

The flyer is thrown first and should provide little difficulty but will effect the left hand blind and may cause some to go out of sight behind the bales. Mark 2 is thrown inline with the 2cd blind. Mark 3 is thrown indented and will land in the edge of the tall grass. Some dogs will blow by it and have to hunt back and it may eat enough memory to cause trouble with the other marks.

The majority of the difficulty with this test is the blinds. Dogs fading with the wind and the influence of the dead bird marks may end up behind the tall Johnson grass and will be unlikely to recover on the Right hand blind. In addition it is difficult to get a dog to run directly to the base of a haybale.

The flyer crate and feathers from the shot ducks will provide major suction for the left hand blind. If the dog gets behind the bales recovery will be difficult.

All in all it is a technical test of mostly a conceptual nature. Not something that would be fun to run or judge. But when provided with such terrible grounds difficulty must come from elsewhere. Sorry it was one of the few pics I had without stickmen.
Mark L.

 

[brandywinelabs]

Help.
When I save the file of the field it is huge 2,305 KB.
SO it won't upload.

 

[greg magee]

Is that flyer shot in towards the line, ducking for cover regards

 

[Juli H]

no - it thrown directly away from the line....as the description says. the yellow dots represent the bird

Juli

 

[Juli H]

Help.
When I save the file of the field it is huge 2,305 KB.
SO it won't upload.

if you go to your photo editor and resize you should be able to get it smaller..>I always choose the 'save for web' option.

Juli