[Dustin D]

The new 'In The Field' DVD that is in the works.
The first of its kind, it is a program for HUNT TEST Retrievers!

I subscribe to Evan on Youtube and saw this pop up.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkrEFsCqTs







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[Gun_Dog2002]

It it the first of its kind. Sure Lardy, Farmer, Rick S, Hickock just to name a few have put out videos that all state that this training apply's to all dogs, gundogs, HT dogs, FT dogs. Fact is, what the heck do they know....


/Paul

 

[Kenneth Niles Bora]

2:20 in the vid. nice steady to flush!


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[ErinsEdge]

The first of its kind, it is a program for HUNT TEST Retrievers!

I would be more interested in a DVD from someone who has run hunt tests and gone to the master national.

 

[badbullgator]

I would be more interested in a DVD from someone who has run hunt tests and gone to the master national.

This and
Looks like we have a new Fred on rtf

 

[sunnydee]

I would be more interested in a DVD from someone who has run hunt tests and gone to the master national.

I agree with Nancy, I’m sure Evan Graham is a fine trainer but I have never found any evidence that he has ever run a hunt test or a field trial. As far as the youtube video goes the white coats and distance tells me some of these people are training for field trials not hunt tests. For those of us that has run both there is a hugh difference.

 

[Byron Musick]

2:20 in the vid. nice steady to flush!


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Well, I am certainly no expert, but I thought the same thing! Those dogs were having too much fun!

 

[Dustin D]

Well I subscribe to almost EVERY Dog Trainer that has a Youtube Channel. To include DU with Deke the Dog and many others.

Don't kill the messenger, I have none of Evan's Programs

 

[Evan]

It it the first of its kind. Sure Lardy, Farmer, Rick S, Hickock just to name a few have put out videos that all state that this training apply's to all dogs, gundogs, HT dogs, FT dogs. Fact is, what the heck do they know....
/Paul

What distinguishes this program from others is that it’s not a program the broadly applies to various venues, with a loose reference to hunt test applications, but rather that it is devoted to preparing dog & handler purely for those events in tandem with the gundog-only retriever. Hunt test set-ups, hunt test concepts & presentation are evolved from drill work that involve “white coats”, but only for the teaching of concepts. It’s being presented for hunt testers at any level, but especially for those just starting out.

2:20 in the vid. nice steady to flush!

Not everyone does that. Further in that section the same dog is taught sit-to-flush. That was her first day @ quarter & flush, but then no one is asking any questions here so far; only criticism.

I would be more interested in a DVD from someone who has run hunt tests and gone to the master national.

I’ve trained 3 MH’s, and have attended tests in other venues, including some of the footage on that preview. More than 80% of my seminars are hosted by HRC clubs. At the 2011 Canadian Master National were at least a half dozen MH's belonging to people I coach in training & handling each year. I'm very familiar with hunt test prep.

This and
Looks like we have a new Fred on rtf

So far no one seems to have any intellectual curiosity. Only snide remarks. What a surprise.

Evan

 

[Kenneth Niles Bora]

OK, I'll bite Evan,
When "Teaching" steady to shot. What is the benefit to keep shooting after the dog breaks? Do you find it harder to steady a dog to flush after you have let it run like the dog in the vid? Have you ever instructed the gunners to stop shooting, when the dog runs past them, and let the birds fly away. So as to not reward the pup with a bird?
those are my training questions.
As for video commentary. Were you aware that your voice over at the very end of the sample. The text you are reading. Stating how the training for the hunter, or hunt test or trials.... Is almost word for word what Mike Lardy states in the opening sequence of Total Retriever Training, in the barn with the hay bales? And he did that vid in like 1998ish didn't he? That, and the first ever line are what pooped out at me.
　
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[hrkplabs]

As for video commentary. Were you aware that your voice over at the very end of the sample. The text you are reading. Stating how the training for the hunter, or hunt test or trials.... Is almost word for word what Mike Lardy states in the opening sequence of Total Retriever Training, in the barn with the hay bales? And he did that vid in like 1998ish didn't he? That, and the first ever line are what pooped out at me.
　
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If its the truth and its common sense should it surprise you that two people in the same trade would say almost the same thing.

 

[Guest]

I have a question.
Were those real guns with real ammo being fired over that dogs head?

 

[Codatango]

Evan,

It looks like you need to educate the 'group' on your past field trial experience!

One thing that some people do not understand is that some people are good/great do-ers (pros) AND teachers.
Some are good/great teachers and not as involved in the do-ing as they were in the past (and were good/great).

A person's lifestyle and preferences determine if they are more interested in sharing knowledge by teaching - or showing how talented they can be at the job by actively 'performing'.

Not everyone has the time or interest in pursuing a career training dogs for years and years, and need not be criticized for not having done so. All field pros are teachers of dogs and people, eventually.

Debbie

 

[gdgnyc]

I am looking forward to viewing the entire DVD. Is it ready yet?

 

[Kyle_U]

Anyone know when this DVD will be available?

 

[Illini Coot Killr]

Nobody getting slammed in the thread on Non trialing pro's.

 

[Jamee Strange]

2:20 in the vid. nice steady to flush!


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My thoughts exactly, Ken.

 

[Evan]

I have a question.
Were those real guns with real ammo being fired over that dogs head?

Rooster,

Thanks for your question. It’s interesting that no one thought to ask that first before firing criticism. Yes, they were blanks, and it’s explained in the “Upland” section of the program that follows. I appreciate your inquiry.

Evan,

It looks like you need to educate the 'group' on your past field trial experience! One thing that some people do not understand is that some people are good/great do-ers (pros) AND teachers. Some are good/great teachers and not as involved in the do-ing as they were in the past (and were good/great). A person's lifestyle and preferences determine if they are more interested in sharing knowledge by teaching - or showing how talented they can be at the job by actively 'performing'.

Not everyone has the time or interest in pursuing a career training dogs for years and years, and need not be criticized for not having done so. All field pros are teachers of dogs and people, eventually.

Debbie

Thanks Debbie. I’ve sort of been there and done that here on RTF. My record is permanently posted on my site if anyone still hasn’t read it. But there will always be some snipers who don’t really care about the facts as much as their personal bones to pick.

You’re right. I have a gift for teaching. But, as you also pointed out so well, my life is not arranged so as to be compatible with a life chasing events and points. I did it for a while, and it was fun. I’m as big a fan as field trials have, and was one of the earliest participants in AKC hunt tests. It just doesn’t fit – most of all with my family life, and that is more important than anything to me.

OK, I'll bite Evan,
When "Teaching" steady to shot. What is the benefit to keep shooting after the dog breaks? Do you find it harder to steady a dog to flush after you have let it run like the dog in the vid? Have you ever instructed the gunners to stop shooting, when the dog runs past them, and let the birds fly away. So as to not reward the pup with a bird?
those are my training questions.

Teaching “steady to shot” was not what we were doing in that clip, so the reasoning for doing so in that clip is different. Not that it deserves to be quite this large an issue, we did it with that dog in that instance to get her more excited. She had come home from a pro that had dog a fairly weak job with her training, and had used pressure excessively. We spent quite a bit of time styling her up. They were blanks.

Yes, I have instructed gunners to stop shooting for those very reasons; especially for both safety and withholding the bird as a reward.

As for video commentary. Were you aware that your voice over at the very end of the sample. The text you are reading. Stating how the training for the hunter, or hunt test or trials.... Is almost word for word what Mike Lardy states in the opening sequence of Total Retriever Training, in the barn with the hay bales? And he did that vid in like 1998ish didn't he? That, and the first ever line are what pooped out at me.

It doesn’t surprise me that we would say very similar things, as we agree on so many issues. I’ve been saying it for decades. But I appreciate your willingness to ask. I’ve always appreciated that about you.

We hope to have this project ready in about 45 days, if the weather continues to be mild. Thanks to all who asked.

Evan

 

[logy]

Evan,


I have been waiting for this release. My question is can you give us a run down on the conteny of this dvd. As in the chapter or is that information top secret until the release .

 

[Evan]

I'm finalizing the chapter names right now. But out of respect for Chris, I would prefer that anyone who wants to know any details about it email me at rushcreekpress@aol.com and I can provide very detailed information.

As War Hammer stated, he is a subscriber to my You Tube page. He simply asked me if he could post this preview, and I agreed. I don't want this to become a promotion for it, or a source of contention.

Thanks!

Evan