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Not so much of a training question as it is a behavior question.

Nilla has been licking her paws obsessively since about the end of November. We went for a hike to Lighthouse park in North Vancouver and while at the ocean, she must have stepped on a barnacle as she has an open wound (not quite dime-sized; perhaps half a dime) behind her back paw up on her leg a bit (ankle, I guess). I cleaned it, put the antibiotic ointment i have from the vet on (can't recall the name) and wrapped it for a few days (with dressing changes) and it healed up quickly.

Since then, however, she licks that spot continuously and licks the rest of her feet too to the point of rubbing them raw. I can't seem to get her to stop and I've tried everything except putting a cone on her or bandaging all her feet.

She's been to the vet and nothing seems amiss; no infections; no parasites, etc.

The only thing that I can think of that is different is that very soon after that hike and the injury, my life was turned upside down.

I made the decision to quit my job and move 400 km East to live with my parents and go back to school. It's a decision I didn't want to make because I had fought so hard to get down to Vancouver and stay here. But with the job I have, even though it pays decent, I just can't afford to live here.

Within days of making that decision (and stressing about it for over a week), December 1st rolled around and we were alerted by our management (the government, basically) that we are all (131 of us) losing our jobs within the next year. The atmosphere at the office is very tense and stressed; and a lot of girls are unsure what they're going to do. Most are in their 40s or 50s, many are single moms, unable to go back to school. We're getting shafted by the employer and our union is unable to really fight for us (weak union).

I know that my decision was already made, but it seems every day there's a new stressor to worry about in terms of other people and whether I should stick it out until the end (putting my plans on hold) just for the extended severance (which is a pretty big chunk of money).

All this stress has me not sleeping much or eating much, or really able to function much beyond basic survival mode.

That's the only thing that I can think of that would be causing her to lick and chew on her paws.

Is it possible that she's feeling that stress and tension from me and the chewing/licking is her coping mechanism?

If not, what else could it be and how can I go about stopping this behavior before it becomes a serious issue? Right now, it's more annoying than anything because she licks and licks and licks while I'm getting the few hours of sleep I do manage and it has the tendancy to keep me awake. *sigh*

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
You mentioned on another thread that you have hardwood and tile floors,could the floor cleaner your using be causing her licking?Either because it's irritating her or because she likes the taste of it on her paws?
 
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The hardwood and tile take forever to dry (the tile in the kitchen takes over a day to dry) because the heat doesn't make it down from the ceiling vents so consequently, I don't wash the floor much. I'm in a 600 sq ft suite (main area is living room which is 9 ft by 24 ft I would guess) and since it's just the dog and myself, the floors get washed about once a month. They get vacuumed weekly and swept daily, though. When I do wash, I use just hot water and a bit of vinegar usually, since the smell of most cleaners bugs my nose. I thought it was the vinegar, so I decreased the amount I put in the water earlier this month, but she's still licking.

Nothing is different in her food either; or her water source.
 
One of my guys used to chew on his paws excessively. We isolated it down to a food allergy. Changed his food and he quit chewing within a week. If you'd like some more info on what I did feel free to PM me.
 
Allergy is one of the main causes of dogs licking their paws, could be inhalant such as pollens, contact or food related.

Yes, dogs can pick up on the slightest changes in our moods or demeanour. Have you changed anything in the way that you interact with her since your situation changed such as not the same amount of walks training etc, and or more or less attention paid to her.

She may have also set up a lick itch/irritation cycle that you need to break.

A cone will not be of any help as they can get their paws around the cone in order to lick them.
 
A real shot in the dark but have you thoroughly examined the dogs feet for other problems. My lab was doing the same thing a couple of months back. Found small bumps in between the toes. Dog was not limping and showed no signs of discomfort during rigerous training. Lots of theories as to cause for the bumps but nothing definitive. Vet treated with 30 day antibiotic regimen and problem went away .... bumps and licking.
 
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The vet did a thorough exam of her feet and apart from the raw skin from licking, she couldn't find anything like bumps or anything.

Her food hasn't been changed in months and months, she hasn't received any new treats or toys, she is allergic to chicken but hasn't received anything containing it in at least 6 months, and it's winter here so not much pollen around.

We haven't been getting out for as much exercise or training this month due to me having trouble coping lately.

I'll take another look at her feet today and wash the floor thoroughly with just some hot water. I have the antibiotic cream from the vet, I'll put it on her and wrap her up again (she's mostly living her back paws, on the one where she got injured and the other she's licking the pads and in between the pads) even though she hates it.

Thanks for the help so far! :)
 
one of mine keeps getting yeast infection between his toes and constantly licks and chews them. I have tried a aple cidar vinegar / water solution and it has helped short term.
Had a Beagle years ago that would lick his and made soars, vet said it was some kind of tumor, but mainly because he was bored. Got another dog and it cleared up
 
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I should note that my dad's Lab (Nilla's great-aunt) chews her paws consistently all the time and has done so for most of her life. No allergies; the vet's checked her out countless times; and she's never worn skin away or anything. She just chews them and licks them and chews her nails. Dad thinks it's because she's bored, but she does get a lot of stimulation with going for runs, hunting, and lots and lots of swimming in the summer. Neither season seems to be worse for it than another.

Maybe she is bored and when I move home, she'll be less bored with 3 other dogs around.
 
Try a twice-daily ''pedicure'' by soaking your dog's paw pads in Epsom salts. Doing so may help give your dog some relief and she will enjoy the attention. Make a foot soak by using 1/2 cup Epsom salts into one gallon of warm water. Soak the paws for 5-10 minutes.

If she is allergic to chicken, I would suspect that she has allergies that have increased to another trigger and are manifesting in these clinical symptoms. Finding the new allergy trigger will be the challenge...

Is there any improvement in this behavior when you give benedryl regularly..not just one time..for several days....
 
I had a dog with allergies that chewed on his feet more than licked them.

The skin between the pads would look just a lttle red and inflammed. His feet felt a little too warm sometimes.

It was the worst in the winter. We never did find the cause.
 
I had a dog with allergies that chewed on his feet more than licked them.

The skin between the pads would look just a lttle red and inflammed. His feet felt a little too warm sometimes.

It was the worst in the winter. We never did find the cause.

Thats what mine does and I have had him at a dermotoligist, and I called them one day and they said since we rulled ou yeast it must be something else and need to re test.
I said you never looked at the bottom of his feet.
Took him to my vet and had him check, and he had a yeast infection
 
My dog had yeast infections... I think that was secondary to the original problem. He would chew and scratch and get sore and sometimes staph infections. Which we would treat with antibiotocs. If that wasn't nipped in the bud early on the yeast infections would follow.

The dermatologist would do skin scrapings and determine if it was a yeast infection, which we would treat with something else. The simple explanation I was given was that dogs with allergies have "messed up skin."

Long ongoing problem...
 
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Update:
She spent the past week up at my parent's place with 4 other dogs (her great-aunt ((a blf)), a papillon, and 2 pitbull puppies) and her paws have returned to a normal colour (no more pink or red) and I noticed she wasn't licking them at all when I was up there over Christmas. She was fed the same food, same amounts, they use strong cleaners on their hardwood floors (Murphy's Oil Soap and/or Pine Sol), so nothing really was different except she was much more stimulated. I'm thinking she's just bored at home - so that's incentive for me to get off my butt and take her out more often.

Thanks everyone!
 
MY lab started licking his leg after the death of his best friend of 11 years. He doesnt do it when my daughters schnauzers are her but starts as soon as they leave
 
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