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Is anyone familiar with playing while putting on an ecollar? before you let a dog out. I know the obvious response is to tell the dog to stop, but eventually you have to enforce it, and if your dog is not soft it takes quite a bit. Both your hands are on the collar putting it on, and the enforcement fuels the play to certain degree and it is a powerful chain of events because there is reward at the end which is going for a walk, training etc...?

 

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I thought it was taken for granted I am having him sit before I put the collar on. I may have to post a video. He sits and puts his chin down and chews on whatever part of the collar he can get a hold of, and play growls.

 

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I'd like to see a video of the behavior.

I'll make one. I've got one but it isn't utterly ridiculous like it gets some times. My dog has a vocabulary.

 

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I like the idea of setting the collar large and holding an ear.

 

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I'm not going to worry about it too much. One part of the equation is my dog is mouthy. My hands were his toys. I am sure I'm not the first person not to teach there dog to put their mouth on human skin.

This is mild but inside where the lights are on so it is a better video:

https://youtu.be/oe-jxhkurps

This is outside but it is almost dark. My dog knows "sit straight" but I can't really enforce it anymore unless I use the ecollar because he cut his toe really deep on broken glass, and I'm not going to push on his toes when one of them is jacked. He will sit up from a laying down position on command also. It is not like he hasn't received some compulsion to sit in his life. I'm just looking for something I might be missing. I know I repeat commands too much (and other things), but I want to know he knows what he is suppose to be doing.

https://youtu.be/6lMIbluqhJ4

 

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hold the buckle in one hand , hold the other end in your other hand, go underneath the dogs head and then bring your hands over the dogs neck.....if he starts goofing off bring your hands together quickly and give a sharp upward correction "SIT" feed the end of the collar thru the buckle, if the dog goofs off , sharp upward correct "SIT" etc. etc , etc

Thanks, I will try that.

 

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You guys know he is doing exactly what I described to begin with which is playing while I'm putting on the ecollar, and we aren't training in the video. I'm not disagreeing, I just wanted to point that out. I have the healing stick under my chin. I like the part about walking into the pen like I own it. The door pushes in too. I should aim for saying sit once. It is kinda like a mental block for me. Thanks.

 

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I work at a high school. Learning to train my two labs along the way. Take a bunch of pictures (my dogs, landscape, wildlife) and sell a few. ..and whatever my wife tells me to do!!

Erik

Parts of that sound cool.

 

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"SIT"..."put your collar on". Nothing to it for my dogs. They sit down and stick their neck out while I buckle it up.

Your obedience must be better than mine. Why do you think mine is messed up? He basically sits when I tell him to sit.

 

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Polmaise do you understand the level of the training cycle this dog is in? I would suggest that you look at some of the OPs previous posts.
He was talking about nicking the dog with ecollar last March. So has he been putting the collar on and off for 9 months or more?
Opps. He started ecollar conditioning in Nov 2014. So he has been putting ecollar off and on for over a year.
Maybe that's why some of us have been a little short.

The heeling stick seems to be the best thing for my issue. Saying "no" or "quiet" or "Sit straight" and correcting for that is not as good as just saying "sit" and using the stick. Now I know. Another lesson learned. One step closer to greatness. Thanks.